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02 November 2014 03:58
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For those who haven't already seen it, there's an interesting polemic on the current state of photography here on The Register.


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02 November 2014 08:02
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Quite interesting, wish he'd spent more time explaining digital backs on older medium format gear though.


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02 November 2014 08:46
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As well as technical aspects, there is, in my opinion, a different ' mindset' with medium, and even more so large format photography, in the slower, more contemplative nature of the approach.


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I have just loaded three backs for a shoot later: like a lot of photographers, I appreciate film, don't contemplate giving it up anytime yet; and recently read that film sales are on the up.

My point is that if one understands ones tools then the 'digital issue' is no more an issue than a competent artist deciding whether to use oil or water colours for a landscape....the artist goes for what 'works' for the task at hand ...and that can be a combination of using the right media and the pleasure a particular technique gives. I use MF because I enjoy it and film because I like the result.

I also use a FF DSLR and 35mm film...and the camera I use the most is my G1X because I carry it with me the most.Although I sometimes take a 35mm RF with me as it is only slightly larger.

I thought the article was a drawn out way of not saying much of interest to be honest.


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Perhaps most interesting is the observation that sales of SLR cameras are tanking now too; the iPhone, apparently, is good enough, weighs (much) less, and is always available.


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03 November 2014 04:27
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Quote from profilepictures
Quite interesting, wish he'd spent more time explaining digital backs on older medium format gear though.



Oh I don't know - I thought it was quite simple!

"It was then simple to obtain an old Mamiya 645 Pro body on eBay and to hack it to provide a trigger signal.A small amount had to be milled away from the backplate of the camera to get the sensor plane to line up with the old film plane, and a small plate was needed to couple the items "

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03 November 2014 05:09
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Quote from profilepictures
Quite interesting, wish he'd spent more time explaining digital backs on older medium format gear though.



There's quite a few problems to this which would explain its lack of uptake...

There's little investment in this area now, or rather it doesn't seem to be concentating on driving costs down and you're just as well to buy a whole new camera & back together.

Hasselblad have done a lot to kill the market on this, especially with their H-series cameras as they can only accept Hasselblad backs (some coded signals are used between camera and digital back to verify this) which means no third party backs for their cameras.

35mm is of good enough quality to mean that people aren't that interested in MF.  I'd certainly argue that you could probably get better images from (say) a D800 than you could from a 645 film (once you factor scanning into the equation and subsequent film grain), and I'd dare to suggest that a D800 would even give 6x7 a run for its money.
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03 November 2014 05:34
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I don't know first hand, having never played with mf and digital backs, but having tried lens' on a broncs was aware that mf gave awesome shallow dof and oof bokeh. If you compare a crop and a 35mm at the same ISO, noise is considerably less problematic as signal to noise ratio reduces, so I'm making an educated guess that this will follow significantly for a digi mf too?
Truth is a new set up with lens and accessories in mf is likely never to be affordable or justifiable, particularly with two cameras in our money making set up, but it'd be fun to play with older high quality gear with modern sensor attached I think?


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03 November 2014 05:36
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As for modification to allow a trigger signal, milling bodies and making effective adapters to match focal planes, it's hardly the work of the average guy with average tools available; I'd guess unless you know a well equipped hobbyist engineer and have access to the relevant calculations required, it'd be a shot in the dark, or utter cluster of a job.


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03 November 2014 05:45
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Notice I was comparing 35mm digital to MF film.

MF digital is in another league altogether, both in terms of quality and most importantly price, although IIRC you can get a Mamiya for ~£8000 which compared to (say) a 1Dx at ~£5000 isn't too bad.
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