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Does modern technology improve creativity ?

Neil Anderson is off-line
05 April 2014 09:19
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In other threads the discussion has veered in the direction of the quality of prints produced in previous eras, rather than taking those threads further off topic I thought a separate thread would be appropriate.

Is 'photographic perfection' a significant factor in the creative realm, or is it just something that is significant for jobbing photographers (and technophiles, of course)? Would Citizen Kane (or choose your own classic movie) be better if it was shot in modern perfection (4K ?).
For example I have recently been to both the Bailey Stardust Exhibition in London and a massive Brassai exhibition in Paris, at neither exhibition did I think that any print would have been more worthwhile if it were photographed and printed at the maximum quality available today. At both exhibitions there were some photos I found less interesting than others, and there were some which must have been displayed because of the rarity of the subject rather than absolute artistic merit (more so in the Brassai), but there were absolutely none that I thought if only Brassai or Bailey had had a D4x/D800 (or name your own Canon) it would have been so much better.
Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and wild he'll never need to deal another...


David Heels is off-line
05 April 2014 09:56
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Citizen Kane would be a considerably worse film if it had been shot on a digital format. Film has more depth than any digital format. With Wells & Toland shooting deep focus, film, in that particular case, was clearly advantageous.

Other films, Sin City, for instance, clearly benefit from being shot digitally.

As for, does modern technology improve creativity? No, of course not. But it does democratise the process, so now anyone can have a go.

Although not everyone aspires to be artistic or creative, or even professional. Some just want to produce artless wankfodder. And that's entirely their prerogative to do so.

Dave


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05 April 2014 10:32
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I posted something similar on fredmiranda.com as I am always amazed at the amount of money quite average photographers (in my opinion) spend on gear....and how there is a clear perception amongst many there that the right gear is a pre-requisit for 'quality' work.  For many that means constantly 'upgrading'...so always chasing the most modern technology.

In the end there were some interesting responses...they can be read here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1278979

That aside.....just loading some film into my Bronica backs for a shoot later......surprise


Gerry is off-line
05 April 2014 15:31
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Yes because if gives people who couldn't have access to the old technology a chance to realise their potential and some of them may be as good as or even better than the old school masters - so now we can see their work whereas in the past, they would have never even produced it

Also, we just don't know what the old masters would have made of the new technology - would they have been better or were they good because they could work well with the limitations of film.

You now have more choice, more systems, more aids, more technology. If you want, you can shoot film the old school way, or you can shoot it any way you want.

If you want to live in a narrower world, that is your choice, but if everyone did, it would restrict creativity.

I think we are heading for convergence with visual media and have seen photographers creating outstanding short films.

You can be as creative as you want and restrict your options and still individually create something unusual. 50 years ago, the options available were a tiny fraction. At the time, you would have thought you were at the cutting edge looking another 50 years back
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Matt . is off-line
06 April 2014 02:13
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Did electricity being bought into the home technology improve creativity ?


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Neil Anderson is off-line
06 April 2014 04:43
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Quote from MLP


Did electricity being bought into the home technology improve creativity ?






Interesting how misleading headlines can be - and how few people bother to read the story below.
To be make the question simpler the headline should have been :
Would Brassai have taken better photographs if he had multi coated lenses?
Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and wild he'll never need to deal another...


Peter Roach is off-lineGold Member
06 April 2014 05:03
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Re op, not necessarily, it gives mores options to be creative, but if the photographer doesn't know how to use it effectively then its wasted.


Simon Chan is off-line
06 April 2014 05:53
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On the whole yes, maybe. It can also discourage if new technology allows everyone to achieve it and gave it for free.
For me if there is something that nobody else has done before there is an added enthusiasm to be the first and would encourage me to invest more in my creativity. As in the case of filmmaking and photography in its early and especially pre digital days when there are very few of us doing this I'm sure there are more labour of love and money involved in being in the business.


Simon Young is off-lineSilver Member
06 April 2014 05:58
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It allows patience to be less important.
In the "Information Age", continued ignorance must be a choice motivated initially through inherited beliefs.


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06 April 2014 09:37
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I don't see one as being linked to the other, a creative person will work with whatever medium is available and which they're drawn to, those few who are exceptional will appear exceptionally within their own timeframe, those who are without vision or skill will also fail to benefit from familiar or groundbreaking technologies, within their own timeframe.

The hurdle appears to be timeframes, or sometimes it seems a fear of being left behind, not creativity.



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