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KatieLou is off-lineSilver Member
29 January 2014 19:48
Katielouxox
Model
Katielouxox
Location
Europe
Spain
Ibiza

Work has dried up I would like some help & advice on how to promote my self & make my portfolio more professional?

Hello all Purestormer's!

Basically work has dried up, I have put casting calls up but had very little response recently. I was wondering if people could help with constructive criticism & positive feedback on what I'm doing right & what I could do better on my port to make my port stand out & look more professional.

All advice & comments welcome! (Please don't be too harsh or I will cry) Lol!

Love Katie Lou xxx


KatieLou is off-lineSilver Member
29 January 2014 19:48
Katielouxox
Model
Katielouxox
Location
Europe
Spain
Ibiza

Hello all Purestormer's!

Basically work has dried up, I have put casting calls up but had very little response recently. I was wondering if people could help with constructive criticism & positive feedback on what I'm doing right & what I could do better on my port to make my port stand out & look more professional.

All advice & comments welcome! (Please don't be too harsh or I will cry) Lol!

Love Katie Lou xxx


Kevin W is off-lineSilver Member
29 January 2014 20:49
carshaltonkev
Photographer
carshaltonkev
Location
United Kingdom
London
Carshalton / Surrey / Greater London

IMHO- Nothing wrong with you or your profile. You look great!

Must be the time of year and the state of the economy. Don't blame yourself or your profile.
As in life, so in a game of hazard, skill will make something of the worst of throws.


Profile Pictures is off-line
29 January 2014 21:54
profilepictures
Photographer
profilepictures
Location
United Kingdom
Suffolk
Bury St Edmunds

I'm a bit off my patch here in that you've a great glamour look and I don't shoot glamour much, plus a pay only model, and I mostly work TF.

That said, you've great references and a pleasant and approachable notes set, allied to a fairly extensive portfolio in various settings, all showing you do exactly what you describe in your notes.

Maybe its worth publishing your rates, and set against what I'd expect to see hourly for a decent internet based model I guess £20-£30ph would be about right. If its more, you arent being g competitive enough to fill a diary right now.

Can't say much more than that really, other than if I wanted a glamour models look and experience, I'd certainly consider you if I'd paid work to justify, and that I'm sure a shoot would produce good results.


OldMaster is off-line
30 January 2014 03:58
OldMaster
Photographer
OldMaster
Location
United Kingdom
Hertfordshire
Harpenden

Its the Doldrums time of year..as a photographer I have had 3 days paid work since December!!

But it is also a supply and demand situation. This site is crammed full of models offering glamour and "working up to implied nude".

You could look to going on other sites if you have not already done so..Model Mayhem might work for you better. I have no experience of Purple Port but it has had a successful few years apparently.

And just keep at it, when things are tough its time to get your marketing hat on!! Keep your name up front, contact potential clients directly, use facebook and join all the various modelling links, etc, etc...

At least be comforted that there appears to almost always be a lot more paid work for models than for togs!


Bob is off-linePlatinum Member
30 January 2014 07:04
Bob
Photographer
Bob
Location
United Kingdom
Devon
Honiton

Katie, work has possibly dried up because you have exhausted the supply of photographers interested in working at your level. Just as many women prefer to have a massive variety of shoes or dresses, when a handful of either are all that are really needed, many photographers prefer to work with many different models rather than just sticking to a few so your reservoir of clients will almost inevitably drain faster than it is being replenished.

To maintain a regular flow of work professional models either need to keep reinventing themselves or branch out into other genres, and as there are scores of models out there who offer more genres than you do it is probably inevitable that they will be eating away at your paid work opportunities. Off the top of my head I can think of several exceptionally good glamour models with formerly high profiles on this and similar sites who have semi-retired from professional modelling and turned to other areas to earn a living wage rather than either up their levels or drastically drop their rates to undercut their rivals. I can also think of several others who periodically become a little less selective about the type of work they will accept as modelling is the only money-making skill they believe they have.

This is not just something that exclusively hits models. Not too long ago, when the bottom suddenly fell out of the travel magazine sector (just like the Lads Mags sector suddenly collapsed) and inside three or four months the publication opportunities in my specialist area dropped to one ninth of what they had been for the previous three or four years, I even had to consider abandoning my principles and shooting weddings. Fortunately I weathered the worst of the storm by consolidating, by diversifying, and by down-sizing some of my overheads; but it wasn't easy and if there is another downturn I might yet have to either go down a route I'm not comfortable with or think about picking up work in a totally different profession where I have some marketable skills.

I can't see anything wrong with your portfolio as it stands and I don't see much you can do to it that would attract more trade ..... other than increasing the areas you work in. And I supect that if you did go up a level you'd be faced with the same dilemma in a year or two after you had shot with a few dozen more photographers. Just watch how often models post "Upping My Levels" work requests and you'll spot a distinct pattern.

Bob


Ian MACFADYEN is off-lineSilver Member
30 January 2014 07:24
Kiboko
Photographer
Kiboko
Location
United Kingdom
Surrey
GUILDFORD

Hi Katie Lou,
Possibly the weather/time of year has a lot to do with it. You'll see on my own profile I've stated that I go into hibernation at this time of the year and will resume photography in the spring. The economic situation likewise perhaps. Another reason possibly, is your lack of flexibility regarding terms. I rarely if ever pay a model on our first shoot, I arrange paid group shoots throughout the summer and wouldn't consider booking a model unless I'd done a shoot with her first on a TF basis and so satisfied myself that she was reliable & adept. It might be worthwhile amending your terms to reflect the fact that you'd consider TF if beneficial to you, or 'subject to negotiation', because I'm probably not the only photographer to adopt that criteria.


Gerry is off-line
30 January 2014 08:40
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
Location
United Kingdom
Surrey
Guildford

Hi, your port notes read very much like Jemma Funge who also does artistic nude but not full frontal. I think you need to look at her port because it is structured completely differently.

Yours very much looks like you are primarily interested in Nuts / Bedroom Babes styled images where as Jemma's looks like an Art Nude models port but yet is no more revealing than the pictures you have on your own port.

Whilst you have a body suited for glamour, because you have a trim waist I think you could be of interest to art nude photographers because you have some generous curves. Whilst most art nude models shoot to full frontal, there are some that don't [particularly Jemma as noted].

I think you should seriously look at this because if I have read your port correctly, it may give you far more opportunity than you currently have without having to change any levels.

A lot of success depends on how you market yourself and just saying you shoot art nude will do little. Sticking up some nice art nude pictures may help but people will take a while to spot your potential so you may have to bite the bullet and go and get some different styled images from someone who can actually produce great images rather than all the usual chancers wanting to shoot you for free.
If you have to ask why I do it, you will never understand the reason why


David Heels is off-line
30 January 2014 09:05
Crippen
Photographer
Crippen
Location
United Kingdom
South Yorkshire
Sheffield

As Kiboko stated, the weather is a major factor this time of the year. Most amateurs and hobbyists don't have their own studios, and hire costs, plus your fees and travel, etc. can add up to an expensive shoot for somebody who is just shooting for fun.

Come the spring, (or if your lucky, come the snow) then more of them/us will be out playing with their cameras.

Until then, you need to be targeting professional studio photographers. Which is where an agent comes in handy.

Bob suggested reinventing yourself. My first thought was, I bet if she bleached her hair, the glamour guys would be all over her.

I personally like you as you are, but then I'm not a glamour photographer.

Good luck
Dave



Iain Thomson is off-linePlatinum Member
30 January 2014 16:50
IainT
Photographer
IainT
Location
United Kingdom
Bedfordshire


I noticed this post and it caused me to look at your profile.

I'm inclined to think this post is simply a disguised casting which is a bit disingenious really, but fair play if it works.

To be honest, I can't see anything physically or looks wise that would make you anything less than popular...in fact you stand out from most of your rivals which should ensure you get any work going.

Generally your levels are to low for any meaningfull published work (in terms of income) but as far as internet modelling goes are pretty realistic.

Basically, assuming your attitude is sound and you are prepared to make an effort, I would be genuinely very surprised to learn that you are struggling for work.
I tend to be a modest man, but then I do have a lot to be modest about.



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