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How to gain permission to use 'pop songs' in videos ?

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Jonathan is off-line
28 January 2014 05:27
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I wonder if any-one knows how to go about this please ?


For example, if you were creating a new video / film and wanted to include a musical track from a pop group, who do you approach / pay for permission / usage ?


I hope that this makes sense and thanks again for any advice you can give.


Best wishes.



Jonathan.






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28 January 2014 06:04
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This seems to answer your question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si4RAH3Q2zY
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28 January 2014 06:12
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Quote from stolenfaces
This seems to answer your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si4RAH3Q2zY





Thank you !  I have just started watching the Youtube video and it seems perfect in terms of answering my question !


Thanks once again !







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28 January 2014 11:26
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That won't stop the redbaron is a naughty person s trying to claim you do not have rights and putting adverts on you Youtube videos of course. I've lost count of the times I've had to challenge them. Of course you never see any of the revenue they get from those adverts as compensation for wasting your time.

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28 January 2014 11:42
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The Performing Rights Society.
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28 January 2014 12:23
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A little word of warning Jonathan. Although that youtube link is a good start, I'm not entirely convinced it's tells you the whole story.

It's my understanding that you actually need two licenses here in the UK. One from the writer, publisher or license holder of the piece, the second from the recording artist. This means that even if you used something by Mozart, that is in theory is out of copyright, you may still have to compensate the orchestra who recorded the version you wish to use.

Then of course you have the potential nightmare of dealing with the artistes. It's not unheard of for bands to ask to see scripts or rough cuts of the finished film, for band approval, before any agreement can be reached.

As well as PRS (already mentioned) check out the FAQ's on the MPA (music publishers association) website.

www.mpaonline.org.uk/FAQ

Good luck
Dave


28 January 2014 13:28
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I regularly have my GTA videos pulled off YouTube due to the music in the cars which obviously you can't help.
I have to let them take the songs out to let them stay up.


However, I won't name the websites name but I am 100% sure they are going to get in deep doo doo for using music in their videos.. So please please make sure your sure your sure hahaha.

There are websites where you can buy the rights, for what I required once they wanted £90 Haha.
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28 January 2014 13:32
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You need to read up on sync (synchronisation) rights. It's a complicated area for the novice and it's worth getting to grips with the various terms which the collecting societies may quote in their licences, to make sure you only pay for the licence you need and no more. If you want to use a specific song or track, then go down the PRS for Music route as that encompasses both the PRS and MCPS sides. However if you only need some generic music to fit a particular mood or event, consider getting what is known as production music (a sort of off-the-peg music) from a specialist source such as SoundCloud, who provide a simple one-stop no-nonsense licence, and tend to be cheaper than trying to deal with either the big collecting societies or the major labels.

Addendum. As the SoundCloud website is somewhat difficult to navigate to find production music, here's a link to a specific outfit called SoundCritters and an example of one of their many tracks:  http://soundcloud.com/soundcritters/superhuman-album-mix

Also be careful about the Youtube link posted above. It refers to US copyright procedures which, in this area, are different to UK copyright law. 




Jonathan is off-line
28 January 2014 14:36
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Thank you everyone for such great advice.


It does seem to be a very complicated area - I was unsure what to put into google and you have helped lots - I have now found this, in addition to your great links,  which seems to be very helpful:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/filmnetwork/filmmaking/guide/before-you-start/music-rights




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07 April 2014 17:31
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Jonathan,

How did you get on? Did you manage to purchase what you wanted? Was it expensive? Any problems clearing rights?

Dave



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