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TTL off camera flash from Profoto

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05 November 2013 19:02
nakedobsession
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Wow.
Look what I just found;

http://profoto.com/products/off-camera-flash/b1-off-camera-flash/

A 500joule Off-Camera, TTL Flash from Profoto. Announced today!
This could be what we have all been waiting for.
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05 November 2013 19:13
magpie1
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Well yes it could be what we've all been waiting for but being Profoto probably in the £2k region -for 1. The Profoto web site crashed for a time as it was getting so many hits.


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05 November 2013 21:29
Astphoto
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Err, am I missing something? off camera flash is the norm for a pro, you just have to understand the craft of photography.

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06 November 2013 00:28
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Quote from Astphoto
Err, am I missing something?



How many 500W flash units do you know of that are TTL?

Most speedlights are around the 40/50W range I believe and even specialist ones like Quantum QFlash are only ~150W.  Bear in mind that with this you have immediate access to the entire catalogue of Profoto's modifiers be it hard or soft and you've got quite a potent product, albeit most likely astronomically expensive.
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06 November 2013 05:59
paule
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as a product it's superb.. studio equivalent light power and quality with TTL and no leads...

Price may be prohibitive... though I expect we'll get some clones from China soon enough...


06 November 2013 06:03
paule
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$1995, each.. not a kit... Pre-Order from B&H in the US... so at least we have a ball park figure...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=PRB1AIR&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=/BI/6857/KBID/7410




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06 November 2013 06:14
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Quote from paule
Price may be prohibitive... though I expect we'll get some clones from China soon enough...



The 'problem' with Profoto is that they are VERY good in terms of performance (I own one alongside my Bowens heads), and they work on the basis of no-compromise in terms of build and ability hence the silly costs (ditto for Broncolor & Briese).  The cheaper Chinese ones will always be cutting corners at some point.

I think they've missed an oportunity by not producing some cheaper non-TTL ones, and as a Pocket Wizard owner I'm slightly annoyed they're insisting on going to their own proprietary radio system (my own Profoto has a Pocket Wizard antenna/receiver built-in, works beautifully with PW enabled Sekonic light meters).  And I think it would serve them well to make some lights at a bit more of accessible cost to the masses, simply to get them on-board with their system rather than giving in and going for a competitor's make (Elinchrom IMO being the obvious alternative if you can't afford Profoto).
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06 November 2013 11:02
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I've been using my 2 Profoto Compact 600 heads for a few years now, along with two Bowens 400w Gemini units, but am now seriously considering replacing the Profotos with a pair of 500W Bowens Gemini simply on grounds of accessories cost, for example a honeycomb grid for the Profoto head is around £250 against about £150-£160 for the same by Bowens. I also want to get a portable battery pack - the Profoto one is completely out of the question, purely on cost.

Both pairs of head units have been equally reliable over the years of use.

Dave


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07 November 2013 03:38
RedChecker
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£1554 at Calumet

I'm actually somewhat surprised they didn't simply swap the $ sign for a £ one and charge £1999 (as usually happens when we see US prices first)
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07 November 2013 03:45
magpie1
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Quote from RedChecker
£1554 at Calumet



I'm actually somewhat surprised they didn't simply swap the $ sign for a £ one and charge £1999 (as usually happens when we see US prices first)



I'm surprised as well, the $=£ 'equality' winds me up. Maybe a sign of difficult trading time.



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