Whats Happening Purestorm

Whats Happening Purestorm

153 posts
2 Nov 2014
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
marlhamphoto

Do you honestly think that if a guy says to, or about, a woman "I wouldn't mind smashing her back doors in" that it would be taken as a compliment by any women hearing it? Let alone the woman about whom it's said?

If that's the crux of your argument then I think you're going to flounder. Unless it's me that's completely out of touch.


I don't think it is a matter of anyone being out of touch, it is just laddish talk that a sensible bloke wotuldn't say to  a woman, unless he knew she would take it as intended. 
I have talked to lots of people over the last year about it and used that very saying as an example, most of whom are models actually and without exception, they have said it is the sort of talk they hear all the time and they don't take it seriously at all.   It isn't a saying I use myself though. 

It does, however, offend certain people on sites like this as they love to be offended on other people's behalf and love even more, to have a crack at someone as it makes them look amazing  
Posted 10 Nov 2014
Edited by mattharper 10 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
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marlhamphoto
mattharper

I don't think it is a matter of anyone being out of touch, it is just laddish talk that a sensible bloke wotuldn't say to  a woman, unless he knew she would take it as intended.

But that's the point isn't it - what you might regard as acceptable within a small group of people whom you know very well isn't acceptable on a modelling forum. Maybe you thought you knew the people on the forum better than you actually did?
mattharper

I have talked to lots of people over the last year about it and used that very saying as an example, most of whom are models actually and without exception, they have said it is the sort of talk they hear all the time and they don't take it seriously at all.   It isn't a saying I use myself though.

Do you have a daughter? Or sisters?

I don't doubt women hear that and similar an awful lot. Just because it happens a lot though doesn't make it acceptable or tolerable IMO.

Posted 10 Nov 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 10 Nov 2014
BigEarsPix
Photographer
BigEarsPix
I don't understand this PP's got a better more modern user interface thing. Okay I'm not a spring chicken so don't get it all but some features of their interface do my head in. Pop up windows that don't pop down again, especially on mobile devices. The app that calculates the distances for the casting calls is rubbish. Rugby is not 51 miles from London and 51 miles from Birmingham. It took me months to work out what FPI stood for and couldn't understand why there are so many arguments about them on the forums because I don't see any front page images. It was turned off in my preferences . I worked in IT for over 20 years and I've seen some shocking user interfaces and PS isn't bad by a long chalk. I have never paid for any modelling web site (cheapskate), I only need one feature, the ability to book a model. If I had to pay for one it would have to be PS because 99% of my bookings have come through here.
Posted 10 Nov 2014
PHP_Photography
Photographer
PHP_Photography
mattharper

Interesting that RC defends PS and supports it, after a look a few minutes ago, I see he hasn't uploaded a pic in 2014, so far.

Turning threads into a portfolio review is the SOP in PP but pls do not start it here.

Posted 10 Nov 2014
PHP_Photography
Photographer
PHP_Photography
BigEarsPix

I don't understand this PP's got a better more modern user interface thing. Okay I'm not a spring chicken so don't get it all but some features of their interface do my head in.

I agree, PP UI is a mess.

To some users PS looks dated but at least here you can easily find the settings you need, no need to find the right cog.


Posted 10 Nov 2014
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
marlhamphoto

But that's the point isn't it - what you might regard as acceptable within a small group of people whom you know very well isn't acceptable on a modelling forum. Maybe you thought you knew the people on the forum better than you actually did?

Do you have a daughter? Or sisters?

I don't doubt women hear that and similar an awful lot. Just because it happens a lot though doesn't make it acceptable or tolerable IMO.



I am not really that concerned with what is acceptable to you on or off a modelling site.  I have just got back from walking my dogs on the beach and there was a woman there who I see possibly four times a week walking her dog.  I said to her "what do you think Imean if I say I would like to smash your back doors in?"    She just laughed and I told her, no, seriously, what do you think it means?  She said, "I suppose it means you want to shag me", continuing to laugh and that is exactly the same answer I have had from several women, MOSTLY  models as I don't go out much, apart from walkimng my dogs and shopping.   See, the real world isn't quite so precious, or pretentious and funnily enough, nearly all the models I have encountered happen to live in the real world as well as use sites like this.  I managed to get 78 positive references on here without pretence or walking on eggshells, just being myself, but hey, I guess they are all lying.   

No, no daughters but stepdaughter,  a nurse, now in her early forties who also isn't quite so precious.  

Acceptable or tolerable?  Well, something you did on PP was not tolerated, so I am hardly about to take advice from someone who has and continues to be a troll.  You still haven't answered the question I asked you a few months ago about digging up something I said and if it was relative to the thread you did so, in or was it to troll, try and cause an argument.  I asked two or three times, but you overlooked it a few times while answering other posts.  So, Sir, I am certainly not in the position where I have to take advice or criticism from a proven complete **** such as yourself.  And if that gets me banned from PS, so be it, I couldn't give a toss, I rarely shoot, can't, rarely come on here, but just thought I would have a look and as usual, you are in the forum, you and a small handful of others, always slagging off PP, which you just happen to be a bit bitter about.  Well, PP is a far better site, partially,  as it doesn't have you on it.   I could go on but need to lie down and when in pain, I might get angry and say something I regret, so I won't. 
Posted 10 Nov 2014
PP interface doesn't bother me, I think its kind of neat but then I usually just access these sites from the computer so its fairly easy to navigate on most of them.

*yawn* Matts dribble - meh.. I won't go over old history, its time we all moved on - deep down somewhere inside he knows his "joke" was repulsive.

Posted 10 Nov 2014
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
Chrissie_Red

PP interface doesn't bother me, I think its kind of neat but then I usually just access these sites from the computer so its fairly easy to navigate on most of them. *yawn* Matts dribble - meh.. I won't go over old history, its time we all moved on - deep down somewhere inside he knows his "joke" was repulsive.


That's the point, I never said it wasn't, it was awful, but that was why I put it in the thread, to emphasise that words are words, no one would think that was anything but repulsive, but it was taken completely on its own and coopied to FB and in emails where readers could only see the "joke" and not the rest of my post. 

However, as anyone who has been on forums more than five minutes knows, people love to take a snippet and use it in isolation.  That's internet Life for you. 
Posted 10 Nov 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
This thread really does remind me of the good old N-M and PS days......might be hope for the place yet
Posted 10 Nov 2014
Edited by anthonyh 10 Nov 2014
BigEarsPix
Photographer
BigEarsPix
anthonyh

This thread really does remind me of the good old N-M and PS days......might be hope for the place yet


Well come on and join in smiley . I've never posted this much in my life.

Posted 10 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
mattharper

I am not really that concerned with what is acceptable to you on or off a modelling site....

I understand that my curiosity is making you feel uncomfortable and appreciate you taking the time to respond.

I don't know you nor am I overly acquainted with your forum activity. But I've detected in your responses to me that you feel as if there's a group of people who are or were determined to get you ejected from PP for no other reason than they didn't like you. Now to me that sounds irrational and childish - I don't think that's likely at all. On the whole people are tolerant towards others even if they don't agree with them or like them - that's been my experience anyway. So your argument that people made an issue of the joke to get you banned solely because they didn't like you doesn't seem plausible to me. So what is it that drives you to the conclusion that there was some sort of conspiracy against you?
Posted 10 Nov 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 10 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
mattharper

... but it was taken completely on its own and coopied to FB and in emails where readers could only see the "joke" and not the rest of my post.

What's the relevance of FB? You've mentioned it a couple of times now.
Posted 10 Nov 2014
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
marlhamphoto

I understand that my curiosity is making you feel uncomfortable and appreciate you taking the time to respond.

I don't know you nor am I overly acquainted with your forum activity. But I've detected in your responses to me that you feel as if there's a group of people who are or were determined to get you ejected from PP for no other reason than they didn't like you. Now to me that sounds irrational and childish - I don't think that's likely at all. On the whole people are tolerant towards others even if they don't agree with them or like them - that's been my experience anyway. So your argument that people made an issue of the joke to get you banned solely because they didn't like you doesn't seem plausible to me. So what is it that drives you to the conclusion that there was some sort of conspiracy against you?


Quite simple, I had pissed a few of them off.  The odd thing was that the little whinging group was mnade up of a few from here who I had run-ins with. If you saw the comments on FB, you woukld soon realise why I can coinclude a level of unpopularity   That doesn't concern me, what did, was the amount of people making comments they wouldn't say directly to me.  It was interesting to see who was making coments actually, tells one a fair bit about someone when they slag the shit out of you in a group discussion, thinking you can't see it, but are straightforward and pleasant in direct messages elsewhere  

As you say, you know nothing of my forum activity, yet you decided to copy the "joke" into  a thread on here  a couple of months ago and you still didn't answer my questions regarding that.  GHo back and have a read and then maybe you can answer the questions.  It was about negativity on Purestorm.

The relevance of FB?  I partly illude to that two paragraphs up, but in short, when a group of people from a modelling site copy things from  a site thread, take it FB, post it or them, start slagging off the site for not banning me (yes, that is what was said), slagging off the owner, they are asking for trouble with the site.   As I said, if it was my site and someone starting slagging it  and me off on FB, their account would be deleted as they surely don't want to be part of a site that they fel so badly about.  If you had seen the comments, you would see why I mention the chance they thought they had.  I am not about to post screenshots, not a chance, but I have a look now and then as I can chuckle at what they say while seeing their general forum behaviour, I laugh when I see what they said about PP and how they are on the forum generally;  coomical!  I then look at who said what about the other site and about me, know that they were banned and smile    I think the saying is soomething along the lines of "if you dish it out, be ready for the consequences. 

However, none of this has any relevance here now, but you can try and drag it on as it seems to amuse you, that way, you might be more familiar with my forum behaviour, if I bother to reply again, which is unlikely as I am now tired of your trolling.  I rarely encounter this nowadays as the other site got rid of a load of the trolls, a few still hide here and all they seem to want to do is slag off the other site.  Niot only that, I see vile comments on here about the other site's owner which say far more about those making those comments than anyone they are aimed at.   Jealousy, bitterness and petty bickering are not good traits to have, it's like the little group in the corner of the playground that can't join in with the rest because they have been silly little girls, pretending to be men.  
Posted 11 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
mattharper

Quite simple, I had pissed a few of them off....

So all this FB activity you refer to - did that occur before or after the 'joke' incident?

The reason I ask is that based on what you've said so far the kind of activity you refer to would be a natural outcome - surely that's obvious to anybody? People would have been understandably enraged by what you posted and to some extent the site's tolerance of it. At best what you posted was a gross error of judgement on your part and was bound to inflame people's feelings toward you - do you not agree?

Or are you saying this activity occurred before you posted the 'joke'?
Posted 11 Nov 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 11 Nov 2014
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
marlhamphoto

So all this FB activity you refer to - did that occur before or after the 'joke' incident?

The reason I ask is that based on what you've said so far the kind of activity you refer to would be a natural outcome - surely that's obvious to anybody? People would have been understandably enraged by what you posted and to some extent the site's tolerance of it. At best what you posted was a gross error of judgement on your part and was bound to inflame people's feelings toward you - do you not agree?

Or are you saying this activity occurred before you posted the 'joke'?


As a result of, but it was quite predictablre who was commetning  
The thing is, the majority weren't told about the wholle post, they assiumed it was just a joke posted. 
Yes, of course it would inflame opinions, as does a hell of a lot of what is posted.  
The point you are missing is the taking it to FB, not just about me, I don't worry about what people say unless it is based on lies or misrepresentation, as was the case with this, but more so, taking the hatred and critisism about the sitte and the site owner AND THEN, the vitriolic outbursts after a handful were banned and I wasn't.  The result of that was more comments and more bitterness towards me, but AGAIN, towards the site owner, who, dealt with the situation and then found out what was being said.    Like I said, if it was my site, every name on the FB thresad would have been out, for the simple reason, "don't like the site, **** off then". 

It is history, it was a ridiculous thread with a rather extreme feminist twist and I threw in a handgrenade, as I have done a few times in the past with threads that I think are onesided or way over-the-top.  As I said, the context was overlooked and many people commenting on FB never even saw the thread.  

As I said, history, old news and irrelevant to life now. 

Error of judgement?   Oh yes, of course, but who can claim to be perfect?  

Must dash, coffee and interesting thread elsewhere  
Posted 11 Nov 2014
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