Whats wrong with chaperones??? - [ i.e. I haven't bothered to read all...

Whats wrong with chaperones??? - [ i.e. I haven't bothered to read all the other topics on this subject ]

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23 Sep 2009
Harpy_images

I am going to link this as not only did it make me laugh but I think its related to the subject at hand..
#last" class="ApplyClass" target="_blank">http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=506151&page=1#last




"I'm looking to create art not illegitimate children"

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Posted 25 Sep 2009
kruse
Photographer
kruse
Harpy_images

I am going to link this as not only did it make me laugh but I think its related to the subject at hand..
#last" class="ApplyClass">http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=506151&page=1#last


Unfortunately Meg, this is clearly a Chaperone thread and yet the link refers to a Nude Model Escort.  The two almost certainly, for the purposes of starting the daily thread, be construed as the same thing.

Rather than hijacking this thread (which clearly has the word chaperone in the title) why don't you start your own, appropriate thread.  Might I suggest a title of 

What's wrong with Nude Model Escorts????

Now, where the feck has the Daily No-Show thread got to.

J


Posted 25 Sep 2009
chrisgreen
Photographer
chrisgreen
Ok so you turn up at the models "home for the day" and all of a sudden there are half a dozen blokes, women, dogs etc wanting to remove you from your very expensive photography equipment.....need i go on

Nope

xx

Posted 25 Sep 2009
Two_stops
Photographer
Two_stops
Guzzik

I have a CD come to me every now and then for pics. He brings his missus with him...........(shrugs)


Brings a whole new meaning to the phrases, "you'll get your CD in a few days through the post", or " I'll put the images on a CD for you to look at"

John
Posted 25 Sep 2009
diipii
Photographer
diipii
Chaperons are necessary when the model believes they are.

I believe they defuse the picture making situation, make photography the only concern and establish the photographer as a serious practitioner.
The professionalism and trust so crucial to us all can be lost in an instant.

The cretinous attitude of some of the men in this thread appears to prove the need. You know the ones with avatars of Mel Smith on steroids, who jump in with "humourous", "matey" comments whenever someone starts a worthwhile thread and have shots in their profile of a woman with her legs so wide apart ....describing it as a "serious art form" or who swear "they" would never work with a chaperon present.

My opinion is these people have issues other than photography and are responsible for the fear and distrust that exists in this relationship. It should be creative, exciting and rewarding and they have blighted it with sleaze and anxiety instead.







Posted 26 Sep 2009
Edited by diipii 26 Sep 2009
kruse
Photographer
kruse
diipii

Chaperons are necessary when the model believes they are.

I believe they defuse the picture making situation, make photography the only concern and establish the photographer as a serious practitioner.
The professionalism and trust so crucial to us all can be lost in an instant.

The cretinous attitude of some of the men in this thread appears to prove the need. You know the ones with avatars of Mel Smith on steroids, who jump in with "humourous", "matey" comments whenever someone starts a worthwhile thread and have shots in their profile of a woman with her legs so wide apart ....describing it as a "serious art form" or who swear "they" would never work with a chaperon present.

My opinion is these people have issues other than photography and are responsible for the fear and distrust that exists in this relationship. It should be creative, exciting and rewarding and they have blighted it with sleaze and anxiety instead.


It's interesting to note that you always avoid debate.  You make some comment or other and seem to consider it the final word on any given subject.

Chaperones are not, necessarily, necessary simply because a model believes them to be.  No model has ever needed a chaperone when shooting with me.

Jeremy

Posted 26 Sep 2009
Cygnet
Photographer
Cygnet
FreelanceBadger

I must be doing it wrong then - making the hole large enough for the second one always wears me out.


I get them to dig each others grave.....
Posted 26 Sep 2009
Cygnet
Photographer
Cygnet
Iconic

i dont mind chaperones,


Me neither .. the last one tasted quite delicious in white wine sauce
Posted 26 Sep 2009
So long as your chaperone serves a purpose, I find that most photographers welcome them. My sister is really good at doing my make-up and photographers actually ask me to bring her along. Also, depending on the day and the location, I've often found both myself and the photographer wishing we had a third person to stand on that bench holding the reflector while we work. In each case the chaperone is most welcome, but I find that bringing someone who serves no purpose in the shoot other than to hover on the sidelines, potentially getting in the way, being bored and interupting shoots is off putting to both myself and the photgrapher.

Posted 26 Sep 2009
whicker
Photographer
whicker
Purestorm could do with a simple definition of Chaperone, such as the one from Wikipedia: The term "chaperone" is also used by models and photographers, typically to refer to a companion who is present with the model during the shoot, usually, but not exclusively, if the model is shooting nude or pornographic material. This chaperone is typically a friend, partner or relative but could also be another photographer or hired security. Unlike the traditional role their job is normally to "support" the model, and supervise the conduct of the photographer. As such this role is sometimes refered to in negative terms as a "bodyguard." Very few professional or full time models work with a chaperone present, and they are generally not used by professional photographers. Opinion differs regarding the acceptability of chaperones on the amateur/hobbiest photography/modelling scene. Some photographers feel that they are helpful and encourage them, others feel that they are unnecessary, a potential burden and a distraction. It is considered by some that the very suggestion that a model needs a "chaperone" is an insult to the good character of the photographer, and that bringing a companion should not be used in place of general good practice, such as checking references.
Posted 26 Sep 2009
Iconic
Photographer
Iconic
kruse

Please, please, please do a search of the forums for this topic and ask the mods to lock this one down.

Starting another macarroon thread is not going to do you any favours emoticon



wooo macaroon ( aint got a clue about what macaroon thing is like )
Posted 26 Sep 2009
kruse
Photographer
kruse
Iconic

wooo macaroon ( aint got a clue about what macaroon thing is like )

Then why comment?

Posted 26 Sep 2009
majk
Photographer
majk
diipii

My opinion is these people have issues other than photography and are responsible for the fear and distrust that exists in this relationship. It should be creative, exciting and rewarding and they have blighted it with sleaze and anxiety instead.


So. You are saying that a pro photographer that have a no-chaperone policy is responsible for the fear and distrust that exists in modeling?

that's really, really pathetic...

A model will NEVER need a chaperone when being with a photographer

A wannabe girl who wants to get her tits out for nuts and falls for the promise of fame and fortune from a guy with a phone-camera doesn't need a chaperone either as if there is hope for the human race she would've sussed the red flag at minute one.

Bottom line. Chaperones are not needed. Ever. 
Posted 26 Sep 2009
Iconic
Photographer
Iconic
kruse

Then why comment?



i like the word haha. i thought if i posted someone might enlighten me
Posted 26 Sep 2009
TonyS
Photographer
TonyS
Iconic

i like the word haha. i thought if i posted someone might enlighten me



Is a kinda cake like thing, heavy on the coconut I seem to remember and quite fragile.




(I may be confusing my confectonary here, who knows)



Posted 26 Sep 2009
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