why i tend to post to the other place and what can i do to change that...

why i tend to post to the other place and what can i do to change that?

92 posts
6 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
BrianSelway

The main thing that put me off PP was the owner. He used to be an obnoxious forum bully here, and I really don't want to give him by business.


He was on there as well, albeit sending private emails suggesting you don't belong on his site, hence the reason I left.
Posted 7 July 2014
arkady001
Photographer
arkady001
BrianSelway

The main thing that put me off PP was the owner. He used to be an obnoxious forum bully here, and I really don't want to give him by business. And yet here we get two idiots attacking every decent point that gets made...it makes my decision a lot easier, at least. It's a forum, people should be allowed their opinion, not turned on for being 'negative' every time they try to get a serious, possibly helpful conversation going. Or am I missing the point of a forum?


He no longer argues with people if they take him on in the forums. He simply bans them altogether... another great way to treat your paying customers...

Posted 7 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
arkady001

He no longer argues with people if they take him on in the forums. He simply bans them altogether... another great way to treat your paying customers...



Or if they take on his 'mates'
Posted 7 July 2014
Stibnite
Photographer
Stibnite
EdT
Very true. Sometimes this place is a bit like all the loyal members of CompuServe, AOL and the other similar companies saying that the internet would never replace CompuServe {or whichever] because they had communities etc. Where are those companies now? I just did a search on Models in Cambridgeshire, only 6 have joined in the first six months of this year. I remember when you used to see six in a week. Moaning about a lack of loyalty isn't going to fix that. The whole site needs updating a bit.
I can't remember 6 models joining in cambs in a week ever
Posted 7 July 2014
arkady001
Photographer
arkady001
Stibnite

I can't remember 6 models joining in cambs in a week ever


48 models - M & F - have joined the other place in the past 48 hours.... Country-wide, obviously, but if that isn't enough of a wake up call, I don't know what is.

Posted 7 July 2014
Rawandthecooked
Photographer
Rawandthecooked
RedChecker
He was on there as well, albeit sending private emails suggesting you don't belong on his site, hence the reason I l the site will fall, arrogance as displayed by the whole admin team and the owner will see to that, once a viable alternative appears! Someone has to step up to the plate though!
Posted 7 July 2014
EdT
Photographer
EdT
Plymjack
Even if that worked it would be the same a searching London! - a huge area -  why keep defending the system when it is clearly not good,  a simple post code search is all that is needed.... members would on need to speciify the initial PL2 or PL area - which would be fine for those looking to avoid stalkers - and much eaiser for everyone else.
I'm not defending it. If you look a bit higher you'll see that I said that a simple x miles from postcode would be better. I'd just never seen that the casting call searches were done by region rather than county. As I said, county searches are equally useless to me since I need to search 5 counties.
Posted 7 July 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
EdT

PP works on postcodes and still seems to attract a large number of models. To find someone within a 30 mile radius of my home, I need to search Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Bedfordshire and Norfolk, then start weeding them out by location. A simple "within 30 miles of my postcode" would simplify all of that. It's simple things like that that make PP so much more usable.


MM as well...it has used that system since before I joined...years ago. I never search for models on here as the system is too cumbersome.....unless looking for something like '50 plus model doing art nude' since I know I will only get a few models flagged up for this and I can quickly see who is available and where....
Posted 8 July 2014
Edited by anthonyh 8 July 2014
arkady001
If a competitor offers a superior package for broadly the same amount, your loyalty is misplaced, surely? A moot point considering we are all members of all sites under discussion here.
Are we? Other popular sites are run by "photographers" who are dangerous towards models.
Posted 8 July 2014
arkady001
Photographer
arkady001
JenSomerfield

Are we? Other popular sites are run by "photographers" who are dangerous towards models.


Yes 'we' photographers are. Mostly. Almost all those contributing to this thread are in at least two of the other three sites I log into on a regular (daily) basis.
I know of whom you speak btw and you have my heartfelt support and sympathy. Many discussions on that subject offline.
Plus, you 'were' until your account was closed.
Posted 8 July 2014
Edited by arkady001 8 July 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
JenSomerfield

Are we? Other popular sites are run by "photographers" who are dangerous towards models.


Personally I struggle to understand why some people support that site, through their continued membership, despite being aware of this.
Posted 8 July 2014
jivago
Photographer
jivago
IainT

I don't use facebook personally, but I can see where you are coming from. The main disadvantage this site has over competitors is that I believe it is not the operators main business (appologies if that is incorrect) so they do not have the same time to devote to it as others do. I agree PS is losing ground. That does dissapoint me a lot. I have a lot of loyalty to this site, it has served me very well over the years and the management and moderators have never been anything other than fair and respectful (towards me anyway) and I would love to see changes which revitalise things around here.


I reflect all of that.

Posted 8 July 2014
arkady001
Photographer
arkady001
marlhamphoto

Personally I struggle to understand why some people support that site, through their continued membership, despite being aware of this.


Hence attempting to inject new life into the alternatives...

Posted 8 July 2014
jivago
Photographer
jivago
Facebook and the similar 'playground-noise' of other sites (Love it - Following-Tag it)  bores me rigid!  - BUT if that is what the market wants then.....We could always have a '9-oclock watershed' after which no 'Love it's' were allowed 

A general point:- Ultimately it is the photographers that pay - They are the 'engine' of the market forces here, not the models. If enough of us continue to support PureStorm then eventually there should be something of a turn-around. Serious pro models will have to pay attention here. If photographers continue to behave like lemmings then this is what you end up with.

Points on Facebook

Pure storm kicks off bad people. Facebook does not by and large.
Facebook provides no Search facility.
Facebook provides no facility to post casting calls - Except to your pals.
This is about photography FFS! if you want to chat to your friends, then got to a bar or have a real party FFS! frown
Posted 8 July 2014
jivago
Photographer
jivago
marlhamphoto

Personally I struggle to understand why some people support that site, through their continued membership, despite being aware of this.


I only recently became aware of this issue. I think PureStorm kicked that person off?  Hence demonstrating one of the plus points of this site.

Posted 8 July 2014
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