why i tend to post to the other place and what can i do to change that...

why i tend to post to the other place and what can i do to change that?

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6 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
I think Facebook's a dreadful system, certainly for models as genuine offers of work have the potential to get lost in the deluge of chat-up posts from fans & other useless, non-work related nonsense.

I've tried several times to contact models on there (who aren't on here) and you just get ignored, they don't even read the message even when you're 'freinds' with them and you know it's going into their inbox rather than the 'other' box.

Posted 7 July 2014
Hugh
Photographer
Hugh
FB works very well for me - probably use it half the time.
Depends which groups you are a member of, and if you actually know the models first I suppose.



Posted 7 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
To be fair I don't bother with groups on there (too cliquey and I get fed up with people constantly posting to buy/sell stuff in them) and the models I know I'll still get in touch with them on here as a few have the 'fan' problem I mention above. This site does it all for me (in terms of comms) so I see no need to seek out something else.
Posted 7 July 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Hugh

I would like to see the site revived. .... Purestorm has a good, well run reference system....... It also badly needs a better way of sorting model searches on a distance or postcode basis. If that was sorted, it might take off again. ..


for me it says it all.....  While the "south west" is from Lands End to Reading some 260 miles door to door it is impossible to use the search option usefully...
Posted 7 July 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
Plymjack

for me it says it all.....  While the "south west" is from Lands End to Reading some 260 miles door to door it is impossible to use the search option usefully...


One of the problems is that some models fear for their personal safety if the system was any mode specific.

I've raised concerns in the past that 'London' is far too vague and suggested either  a borough or at the very least which quadrant (ie. central, North, East, etc.) and models weren't comfortable with the idea.
Posted 7 July 2014
mph
Photographer
mph
[qt][author]RedChecker[/author]
.............suggested either a borough or at the very least which quadrant (ie. central, North, East, etc.) and models weren't comfortable with the idea.[/qt]


Geez, paranoia or what? Restricting it to one out of about 2.5 million people should not be a problem!


Posted 7 July 2014
arkady001
Photographer
arkady001
RedChecker

One of the problems is that some models fear for their personal safety if the system was any mode specific.

I've raised concerns in the past that 'London' is far too vague and suggested either  a borough or at the very least which quadrant (ie. central, North, East, etc.) and models weren't comfortable with the idea.

Preferring to receive job offers from Uzbekistan, no doubt... other sites have the option to add town and even postcode to your profile. Most models there fill those fields in without even blinking...
Posted 7 July 2014
EdT
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EdT
RedChecker
One of the problems is that some models fear for their personal safety if the system was any mode specific. I've raised concerns in the past that 'London' is far too vague and suggested either  a borough or at the very least which quadrant (ie. central, North, East, etc.) and models weren't comfortable with the idea.
PP works on postcodes and still seems to attract a large number of models. To find someone within a 30 mile radius of my home, I need to search Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Bedfordshire and Norfolk, then start weeding them out by location. A simple "within 30 miles of my postcode" would simplify all of that. It's simple things like that that make PP so much more usable.
Posted 7 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
I guess their (the models) response was simply the typical human reaction against what they're used to when I made the suggestion on here and yes, they seem fine with the setups on other sites. I just got annoyed that they wouldn't answer direct questions with asking where in London they were as it meant the difference between an hour's drive or 2-3 hour's drive, odd.

Posted 7 July 2014
Edited by RedChecker 7 July 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Err London is about 40 miles across..... the SW is over 250 miles - hence my frustration with the lack of a useable search option!

Posted 7 July 2014
Edited by Plymjack 7 July 2014
EdT
Photographer
EdT
Plymjack
Err London is about 40 miles across..... the SW is over 250 miles - hence my frustration with the lack of a useable search option!
I don't see where you can specify SW, the options are Cornwall, Devon, Avon, Somerset, Berkshire etc. Or am I missing something here?
Posted 7 July 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
EdT

I don't see where you can specify SW, the options are Cornwall, Devon, Avon, Somerset, Berkshire etc. Or am I missing something here?


Go to the casting calls tab and filter the searches.  It doesn't give counties, only regions (eg. south-west, south-east)
Posted 7 July 2014
Edited by RedChecker 7 July 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
EdT

I don't see where you can specify SW, the options are Cornwall, Devon, Avon, Somerset, Berkshire etc. Or am I missing something here?


Even if that worked it would be the same a searching London! - a huge area -  why keep defending the system when it is clearly not good,  a simple post code search is all that is needed.... members would on need to speciify the initial PL2 or PL area - which would be fine for those looking to avoid stalkers - and much eaiser for everyone else.
Posted 7 July 2014
Edited by Plymjack 7 July 2014
IainT
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IainT
Hugh
I would like to see the site revived. Facebook is the preferred way to interact for most models and photographers. Ignoring that is futile It has two weaknesses: - lack of a reference system - the inability to post nudes. Purestorm has a good, well run reference system. It needs a good, easy way to link from Facebook to portfolios and individual portfolio fotos here (without thumbnails showing for NSFW fotos). It also badly needs a better way of sorting model searches on a distance or postcode basis. If that was sorted, it might take off again. Frankly, close integration with Facebook is the only thing which will help.
I don't use facebook personally, but I can see where you are coming from. The main disadvantage this site has over competitors is that I believe it is not the operators main business (appologies if that is incorrect) so they do not have the same time to devote to it as others do. I agree PS is losing ground. That does dissapoint me a lot. I have a lot of loyalty to this site, it has served me very well over the years and the management and moderators have never been anything other than fair and respectful (towards me anyway) and I would love to see changes which revitalise things around here.
Posted 7 July 2014
Edited by IainT 7 July 2014
BrianSelway
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BrianSelway
The main thing that put me off PP was the owner. He used to be an obnoxious forum bully here, and I really don't want to give him by business. And yet here we get two idiots attacking every decent point that gets made...it makes my decision a lot easier, at least.
It's a forum, people should be allowed their opinion, not turned on for being 'negative' every time they try to get a serious, possibly helpful conversation going. Or am I missing the point of a forum?

Posted 7 July 2014
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