Up until a couple of years ago I would shoot two or three models every weekend but started to realise that by saving that money could book a Villa on Cyprus and ship a number of models out to work with, all expenses paid. One Christmas I had ten shoots lined up, only three took place, that was a turning point for me, unreliability and lack of communications. This year I've booked another Villa with infinity pool, sauna and jacuzzi on Cyprus, I put an early "feeler" casting call out and messaged a couple of models I thought fitted the bill pointing them towards that casting call, one response from a relative new model was that she thought a 100 Euros for a weeks shoot was a rip off! Seemed to miss the fact the whole package was worth about £1000 to her and that I only shoot for about two hours a day any one / combinations of model(s), on the previous three similar shoots I shot no more than 2000 images each trip in total, such is the heritage of using a Mamiya RZ67! I agree that money is a factor in the decline, but think that would be models are now realising that to be "Britain's next top model" they might just have to work at it and not just stand in front of a camera and dream! In other words, not as easy as they thought!
See that all sounds great but I would rather be on holiday with a loved one or at home working a full day and being paid for a full day - and many models I know feel the same way as I do. You can't "relax" if you are with a client and I would say 100 euros isn't very much for being away from home for a long period of time. I do think though that quite a few of the photographers see these trips as a way of getting a holiday with some pretty young females rather than to take good pictures which is a shame.
I've noticed that the mods can be slightly too heavy handed on some posters. Though I congratulate them for being heavy handed on the scams that appear to go onprofilepicturesModerators here appear moderate to me, and less sinister than elsewhere in at least one instance. As for failures to reply. Its a fact of forum life. Your ports looking cool BTW.
I reckon it's all Iconics fault. He used to be here regularly, asking innocent questions, then getting kicked all over the playground. But still stuck his head over the parapet to be shot at again. I admired him for perseverance etc. Then he backed off a bit and Purestorm started to shrivel a bit. So Iconic lets be hearing more from you. Amd Laylarc too. And the model who said "go chew on a fish", before slamming the door behind her. And lets have no more talk of the corrupting FPIs next door. Still prefer Purestorm even tho' the gobby ones have emigrated.
No, 'Google it' IS a smartarse answer from someone with a superior attitude. What would've been wrong with a simple, 'SFW stands for.....' reply instead? What's lazy about asking a question on here and hoping to get the answer rather than googling it? I never realised we had to work for answers to questions that vastly more intelligent members know the answers to. I just assumed they'd be more than happy to share their knowledge. Obviously that's less fun for them than telling someone to Google it or making the person asking the question appear even thicker than he/she already is by adding a 'Doh' and a hand slapping the head face in their reply.
HAHA yes the good old days, heres my 2 pence
1. I couldnt really give a flying **** now as its gone to the toilet
2. the way ive seen people treated by some of the newer moderators on the forums was sickening and the way the site seems to alow an army of creepy men only here to drool over naked women.....
Thank you Iconic, that's all I needed to know. Shame some of the smarmy members on here couldn't take a leaf out of your book.IconicSFW - SAFE FOR WORK NSFW - NOT SAFE FOR WORK
Most models are interested in paid work, within their levels and quality expectations. Anything else is pretty irrelevant and they will actively use those sites that provide this for them. Where there are models, there will be photographers so to me it is why are the models not so active that is the most important question.
Maybe what we need to be surveying is the number of older men with high disposable incomes who are active on any particular site..they are the main source of income for most models so presumably the models go where they go! In fact that would be a useful statistic for advertising purposes (and attracting models) so I'm a bit surprised the various site owners don't research this.
Thank you Iconic, that's all I needed to know. Shame some of the smarmy members on here couldn't take a leaf out of your book.
Many good models have left Purestorm or ceased to use the site because of too many level pushing requests. Unless this issue is addressed the site will continue to decline.