Where next for lads mags?

Where next for lads mags?

52 posts
31 March 2014
SMILESPHOTO
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SMILESPHOTO
HowardJ

But what would you do if you wanted to buy a car AND had a raging boner? Stay indoors?


I'd buy a Vauxhall - that would cures most urges, even the one to live!


Posted 1 April 2014
Chandos
Photographer
Chandos
HowardJ
But is that a big enough market to keep then going? Do we need more sets of topless girls in hard hats?
Obviously the publisher thinks so to revive it and keep it going. There is plenty of construction sites around the country.
Posted 1 April 2014
HowardJ
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HowardJ
Chandos
Obviously the publisher thinks so to revive it and keep it going. There is plenty of construction sites around the country.
Don't the glossier magazines cost more to produce and physically print though?
Posted 1 April 2014
stolenfaces
Photographer
stolenfaces
(mainstream) Magazine finances are about advertising - the cover price does not cover production costs.
To sell advertising you need not only a readership, but one that advertisers will pay to reach.

The Sunday Sport is owned by Sullivan and presumably is a vehicle to advertise stuff from his own sex shops.
According to not entirely reliable sources on the internet, he originally sold his stake in Sport Newspapers for £20M and when it went into receivership bought back the Sunday Sport for £500,000. As he is extremely rich there is no reason to assume that he runs it in the hope of making a serious profit, any more than assuming that he expects to win anything as a result of his investment in West Ham.



Posted 2 April 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 1 April 2014
Chandos
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Chandos
HowardJ
Don't the glossier magazines cost more to produce and physically print though?
Yes but not the Sport newspaper, that is what I'm referring to. Guys attitude to birds, motors, footie has'nt changed just the target audience shift to another medium and for lads mags the target audience moved online. As I mentioned in my previous posts newspaper is still inexpensive and the practical nature of it is still popular in building sites hence why the Sport has been relaunched for about a couple of years now.
Posted 2 April 2014
No real future.

If I was in the Paper industry (manufacturing) I would be scared.



Posted 2 April 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
Why pay to see topless girls in a mag when it doesn't cost that much to join a site like this and pay to see the real thing.....

Posted 3 April 2014
anthonyh
Why pay to see topless girls in a mag when it doesn't cost that much to join a site like this and pay to see the real thing.....
lol pretty sure most people's first stop would be Google rather than posing as a photographer in order to find topless pictures. Most people don't know these sides exist let alone "lads".
Posted 3 April 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
jessicard
lol pretty sure most people's first stop would be Google rather than posing as a photographer in order to find topless pictures. Most people don't know these sides exist let alone "lads".
I did mean find real models and photograph them.....
Posted 3 April 2014
I know but to see nude and topless photos I think you have to have an account - I hardly think someone would sign up as a photographer, having to upload pictures they have taken of six different models in order to have their profile accepted purely to look at tits. They'd look up actual porn.

Posted 3 April 2014
andrew_gibbins
Photographer
andrew_gibbins
We all know that the age of printed magazines is almost over, and that the digital platforms will take over completely, Its the way of evolution, and it cant be stopped. One magazine after the other is ceasing to publish printed media, and Playboy also is showing increasing losses in the last few years. They discontinued their special editions a while back, and their printed magazine is next. When that will happen I dont know, but it wont be that long.

And why you need to sign up to a site to see tits on the internet? There are so many free sites its amazing. Also, do a search for nude images on google, and you got that there too. No problems at all.

The main problem is that the market has changed and noone is changing with it. Same was with the record industry before they moved on it and accepted things like iTunes and Spotify.

Its not the end of the road for either models or magazines. They just have to change with the times.

Posted 4 April 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
Maybe it is just lads mags that are suffering .... I subscribe to a couple of photographic mags (e.g. BJP) and the quality of the editions has risen over time in my opinion....and it can be viewed online as well. These type of mags seem confident about their future.

WHSmiths seems as well stocked as ever with mags....and I read last year that there was something like 5000 mag titles available in the UK.

I guess most guys own tablets and/or smartphones and if they want to stare at boobs it is quicker, cheaper,....with more variety....to use one of these.

On a slightly off topic note....I was telling a photo enthusiast about the Bailey exhibition in London, expecting he would be interested in seeing it...he wasn't. Said he can view the work online. This availability is a problem for some photographers in my opinion as I know a few that see no reason to visit galleries and view original work and never have. It is hard to imagine that artists, painters and so on would have that attitude....most that I know are almost addicted to seeing original works.

Posted 4 April 2014
OldMaster
Photographer
OldMaster
..."On a slightly off topic note....I was telling a photo enthusiast about the Bailey exhibition in London, expecting he would be interested in seeing it...he wasn't. Said he can view the work online. This availability is a problem for some photographers in my opinion as I know a few that see no reason to visit galleries and view original work and never have. It is hard to imagine that artists, painters and so on would have that attitude....most that I know are almost addicted to seeing original works"..

+1

Off topic..sorry, but I know you contributed to my post on here about the Bailey Exhibition. Hope you enjoyed it if you went.

But your point is relevant and indicative of the small screen generation. Firstly its disappointing that so many (and lets face it we can all learn something from the Masters?)couldn't be bothered and yet still pretend to have an interest in photography..and worse perhaps think viewing it on line can come close to being in the presence of a real print, either true B&W or real colour, never mind the fact some were about 6ft x 4ft!!!

Posted 4 April 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
OldMaster

..."On a slightly off topic note....I was telling a photo enthusiast about the Bailey exhibition in London, expecting he would be interested in seeing it...he wasn't. Said he can view the work online. This availability is a problem for some photographers in my opinion as I know a few that see no reason to visit galleries and view original work and never have. It is hard to imagine that artists, painters and so on would have that attitude....most that I know are almost addicted to seeing original works".. +1 Off topic..sorry, but I know you contributed to my post on here about the Bailey Exhibition. Hope you enjoyed it if you went. But your point is relevant and indicative of the small screen generation. Firstly its disappointing that so many (and lets face it we can all learn something from the Masters?)couldn't be bothered and yet still pretend to have an interest in photography..and worse perhaps think viewing it on line can come close to being in the presence of a real print, either true B&W or real colour, never mind the fact some were about 6ft x 4ft!!!


You are right about the current generation that only experience artwork via some sort of digital conversion process that inevitably involves a small screen.

I remember, many years ago as an art student, having a long discussion with a  student friend about the merits of classical sculpture (he was a modernist ) and particularly the merits of Michaelangelo. He was quite dismissive of his work.....which he knew about as he had 'seen' his work 'in a book'.

Anyway...a few weeks after this we were at the V&A in London, and ended up in the plastercast room...which contained an exact replica (plaster cast) of Michaelangelo's 'David".

My friend was litterally gobsmacked in front of it...for several minutes. He was shocked by the sheer scale of it and the power this conveyed. The original in Florence must be even more impressive....unfortunately I have never been there. He'd only seen a photo in a book.

With photography, sometimes it is possible to obtain a photographic book where the prints do justice to the original images but these are rare and usually very expensive. So I can't understand why people, if they have the chance, don't want to view original work.


So going back to lads mags....I guess the small screen experience is better than a cheap mag experience but possibly not as good as a quality mag or publication experience....and both worse than the real thing!!surprise

Posted 4 April 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
There's often a big difference between painted art and a photograph. Photography being constrained by limitations of yesteryear's technology being often misunderstood by those with modern ideas of photographic perfection.

I own many (expensive) photographic art books and have been to a few galleries and find myself increasingly unimpressed by what the masters of yesteryear have produced as I find the quality of my own (and peers) work superceding it in terms of consistency & clarity due to the incresed benefits of modern technology (I make no boasts about my artistic eye though).

That said, if you have an idea as to the processes & limitations of old technology then you can indeed be amazed by what people were capable of, but simply looking at the images with modern eyes without the background knowledge of how tough photography once was will, I fear, miss the point of seeing great works in the flesh.
Posted 4 April 2014
Edited by RedChecker 4 April 2014
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