Whats wrong with chaperones??? - [ i.e. I haven't bothered to read all...

Whats wrong with chaperones??? - [ i.e. I haven't bothered to read all the other topics on this subject ]

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23 Sep 2009
golpys
Photographer
golpys
here's the question i pose to model's when they ask if they can bring a chaperone...

if i was to rape a model..... would i do it in front of my makeup artist, hair stylist, wardrobe stylist and my assistant ??


yes there are weirdos out there, but if you don't feel comfortable enough to shoot with the photographer - then don't do the shoot !!! simple as.

Posted 23 Sep 2009
martika
Model
martika
I think this was meant to have been a serious topic but it has been turned into a joke.I agree that working at a checkout in Tesco's is a little different that being alone with a photographer you have never met.
I think that the chaperone shouldn't be in the same room as the shoot but it doesn't hurt to just be around just incase.There are to many "weirdos" out there and better to be safe than sorry,
Posted 23 Sep 2009
martika
Model
martika
And not all photographers have MUA e.t.c at a shoot

Posted 23 Sep 2009
Harpy_images
Photographer
Harpy_images
martika

I think this was meant to have been a serious topic but it has been turned into a joke.I agree that working at a checkout in Tesco's is a little different that being alone with a photographer you have never met.
I think that the chaperone shouldn't be in the same room as the shoot but it doesn't hurt to just be around just incase.There are to many "weirdos" out there and better to be safe than sorry,


If you are THAT uncomfortable about working with a photographer without a chaperone then perhaps you shouldnt be shooting with that photographer in the first place *shrugs*

Posted 23 Sep 2009
see i dont get this whole chaperone problem either.

I mean i will only take a chaperone to the first shoot if i have never met the photgrapher before. This is not to accuse photographers of being perverted rapists or anything like that its simpley for peice of mind. Shoots after that i will go alone.

I have had a bad experiance... i was young and naive and went alone to a shoot to do lingerie. I got locked in a room and pretty much forced to go beyond my limits and it terrified the living death out of me to the point i took a year out of modelling. Safe to say my limits where not stretched i just refused to work and begged the photgrapher to let me out !! this photographer had LOTS of good references !!

If needs be it wouldnt be a problem if the photographer brought a chaperone either, surely safe guarding is better then not.



Posted 23 Sep 2009
deetvstudio
Photographer
deetvstudio
Iain is right - the OP is seriously attractive. But I'd suggest it isn't only Photographers who'd agree with that, I should think there's a whole world full of policemen, postmen, milkmen, wheelie-bin emptiers, etc., etc., out there who'd think that. So unless we want to end up totally paranoid and not go anywhere, all that's needed is to be sensible. Use the Reference system for a start, then randomly select a few of the people a Photographer has previously worked with to double-check via PM/e-mail. Then if you get a positive response, you agree to the shoot. If you don't like any of the answers, then don't do it. Dave. p.s. Some "models" have been shown to be slightly unbalanced in the past. One even carved up a bloke she met in a Club with a stanley-knife. Maybe Photographers need chaperones too?
Posted 23 Sep 2009
i can understand the not taking a boyfried part coz i agree with that too, a photoshoot is no place for a boyfriend. I take my mum or best friend and both of them come with references if anything they are more of a help then a hinderance.

Posted 23 Sep 2009
RobertBetts
Photographer
RobertBetts
I didnt used to have a problem with the Chaperone, however they can be and are generally intrusive to a shoot

I've had one model's friend taking pics on her mobile phone whilst I was trying to do a shoot.
I've had one mum continually saying to her daughter "Thats NOT how Tyra (Tyra banks I presume) does it"
I've had one boyfiend drive off - consequently leaving the model for well over two hours after the shoot had finished, which meant I couldnt go home and leave the poor girl in the dark out side on her own - I had a 3 hour drive ahead of me
I've had a over zealous dad in the studio that treated me like he had delivered his daughter the bedroom of the devil and that he must of thought my camera was a substitute for my John Thomas
I've had a mum that before allowing me to shoot her son, decided she was going to interrogate my business as if I was applying for £250,000 on Dragons Den - Happily informing me she runs several businesses (Whoppee)

Then you get the friends who come along and want to offer advice or just make the model laugh during the shoot, or who will get bored and want to drag the model out for a cigarette and a chat every 10 minutes

To be honest, as someone said earlier, you wouldnt take someone to a "normal" job with you - and if you are a model of any standing this IS a "normal" job - if you want someone to drive you there thats fine, if you want them to come in say hello, meet me and decide whether I look dodgy or not thats ok, If you want them to come back 10 minutes before the end of the shoot time to have a cup of coffee and a chat with you as the model and me as the photographer that too is fine - but during the shoot - is not a good thing it disturbs the whole Karma of the shoot and NO ONE benefits - Phew!

Posted 23 Sep 2009
martika
Model
martika
Yep i think taking one to your first shoot is acceptable then after that if you feel comfortable and arrange another shoot then you go alone


Posted 23 Sep 2009
bamfordphotography
Photographer
bamfordphotography
I agree i'm in favour and thats why i always make sure my mum is there with me...you just can't take any chances and you hear such strange stories about the models don't ya...
Posted 23 Sep 2009
but is it so bad if you can provided numerous references for your chaperone ? so you know that they arent the type to take mobile phone pics, interfere or put the model off ? x

Posted 23 Sep 2009
photostore
Photographer
photostore
Comments:
I would actually love to become a professional model. If anyone is willing to give me a photo shoot then let me know please , i will not pay for any photos or shoots !
I wont do any kind of topless/nude & will only do photoshoots if my fiancee is allowed to come as i see no reason why he shouldn't ?!


i like the above quote which is now on her profile .
from a girl who wanted to shoot with me, but wasnt allowed by her boyfriend as he was on holiday so couldnt be there to protect her !
She said he had trust issues and was a very jealous guy even though i was allowing her mum to chaperone and it was outdoors in a public place shooting just casual/fashion.
Of course i told her no thanks after that
Posted 23 Sep 2009
Tricky topic.. and understandably one that's over debated and offends easily! I haven't as yet needed to take a chaperone with me. When I first started out I attended group shoots (TF* based) to get a general understanding of how it all works. As I developed I generally would check the photographers portfolio if requested for a shoot. If the work was not to my levels (I avoid glamour and nude), looked amateurish or was only half a portfolio I'd refuse the shoot. If the work is to my levels and looks reasonably professional I PM models the photographer has previously worked with. If some of them come back (as sadly not all models can be bothered to reply) with good comments then I'll set up a shoot with him. I then ensure we have at least one phone conversation. This gives us both a chance to discuss shoot ideas, make sure I turn up prepared, and for me to suss him out a bit. I believe I'd be able to tell the difference between somebody who's passionate about photography, and a dirty perve that has no idea about photography but would like to get somebody into his 'home studio'. My advice would be to follow this. It's worked fine for me so far. If you are nervous I'd recommend not doing home studio shoots.. if you have any questions suggest a location or proper studio shoot. In every walk of life you will find 'weirdos'.. it's about common sense and professionalism. Any decent photographer will happily let you reference them and talk to you over the phone. Good luck!
Posted 23 Sep 2009
RobertBetts
Photographer
RobertBetts
References for a chaperone - What! - its normally a friend parent or worse a boyfriend why do I want to read reference for a chaperone and whos gonna right them - is there a SIA training course for that too

Posted 23 Sep 2009
Harpy_images
Photographer
Harpy_images

Oh Noes.
I had a plumber come around the house today and I was all on my own in the house with him.


Posted 23 Sep 2009
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