Philip Sutcliffe Pleads Guilty to Sexual Offences

Philip Sutcliffe Pleads Guilty to Sexual Offences

37 posts
24 Sep 2015
HowardJ
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HowardJ
IainT
I've heard rumours and I learned from another forum that the lady who was shooting most of the content is no longer doing so. I have a suspicion that no more content will be produced but I could be wrong. There does not appear to be any public record of his appearance yet, but I checked with the court and they verified it.
I think they are actually getting content from eastern europe. I do wonder about the motives of some of the people following the behaviour of this individual. I appreciate he's not someone I'd recommend people to work with but many models have successfully worked with him and have done so many times. Is it purely motivated by ridding the industry of him due to his behaviour or is there an element of eliminating competition too?
Posted 25 Sep 2015
Edited by HowardJ 25 Sep 2015
RedChecker
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RedChecker
HowardJ

 Is it purely motivated by ridding the industry of him due to his behaviour or is there an element of eliminating competition too?


Posted 25 Sep 2015
IainT
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IainT
HowardJ
Is it purely motivated by ridding the industry of him due to his behaviour or is there an element of eliminating competition too?
Is that comment motivated by a desire to look stupid or just blissful ignorance? If its the former...congratulations, you have succeeded. If its the latter...let me enlighten you. Sutcliff has only ever produced content to be used internally by his company. I have only ever produced content for external clients. We have never been in competition. However, in theory Sutcliffe no longer using the services of his UK producer is detrimental to me as she is competent and is in direct competition and is now looking for new clients. My best interests would be served by preserving the status quo or stepping in and offering to shoot his content.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
Edited by IainT 25 Sep 2015
HowardJ
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HowardJ
IainT
Is that comment motivated by a desire to look stupid or just blissful ignorance? If its the former...congratulations, you have succeeded. If its the latter...let me enlighten you. Sutcliff has only ever produced content to be used internally by his company. I have only ever produced content for external clients. We have never been in competition. However, in theory Sutcliffe no longer using the services of his UK producer is detrimental to me as she is competent and is in direct competition and is now looking for new clients. My best interests would be served by preserving the status quo or stepping in and offering to shoot his content.
Really Iain, there's no need to be so sensitive and abusive. It was more related to competition for models than competition for work. I believe he has worked with a number of models that have only worked with him and then decided not to pursue modelling as a career. Their decision may have been made as a result of his behaviour or because they decided it just wasn't for them. Either way he has ended up with content of models that haven't had long modelling career. Without him or his company hiring models then somebody else is going to be attracting these newbies and getting this content.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
IainT
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IainT
HowardJ
Really Iain, there's no need to be so sensitive and abusive. It was more related to competition for models than competition for work. I believe he has worked with a number of models that have only worked with him and then decided not to pursue modelling as a career. Their decision may have been made as a result of his behaviour or because they decided it just wasn't for them. Either way he has ended up with content of models that haven't had long modelling career. Without him or his company hiring models then somebody else is going to be attracting these newbies and getting this content.
I thought you had gone back to the old ways of trying to wind me up which in most circumstances is a bit of a laugh and something i,m up for, but this is a serious and sensitive subject. But fair enough i,ll take your point as valid and appologise for being sarcastic. But its irrelevant as I have no interest in encouraging new models to take up adult, quite the opposite.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
HowardJ
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HowardJ
IainT
I thought you had gone back to the old ways of trying to wind me up which in most circumstances is a bit of a laugh and something i,m up for, but this is a serious and sensitive subject. But fair enough i,ll take your point as valid and appologise for being sarcastic. But its irrelevant as I have no interest in encouraging new models to take up adult, quite the opposite.
Don't worry I'm sure I can find other ways of winding you up if you're missing it. It's not so much encouraging them to take it up as them already having decided to try it and looking for someone to offer them cash to do it. Previously they might have found Phil's ad in The Stage and gone to him. Without him then there's a gap or maybe modelling has moved more to the internet and people don't read The Stage anymore?
Posted 25 Sep 2015
Edited by HowardJ 25 Sep 2015
IainT
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IainT
HowardJ
Don't worry I'm sure I can find other ways of winding you up if you're missing it.
Do you know what, I do miss the banter and wind ups there used to be on here, the other lot are more serious.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
RedChecker
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RedChecker
IainT

Do you know what, I do miss the banter and wind ups there used to be on here, the other lot are more serious.


They're only more serious because they know Russ can't take a joke and has a tendency to ban people that offend him or any of his 'mates'.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
Edited by RedChecker 25 Sep 2015
HowardJ
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HowardJ
RedChecker
They're only more serious because they know Russ can't take a joke and has a tendency to ban people that offend him or any of his 'mates'.
I'd not really noticed they were more serious. It does feel quite different though.
Posted 25 Sep 2015
mph
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mph
HowardJ

I'd not really noticed they were more serious. It does feel quite different though.


Hard to get a feel for this place with only 6 people on it! 
Posted 26 Sep 2015
dhuntuk
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dhuntuk
I do love these white knight threads.

And, I do so hope that Mr Sutcliffe gets his years in prison that he so justly deserves.

Posted 27 Sep 2015
photostore
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photostore
dhuntuk

I do love these white knight threads. And, I do so hope that Mr Sutcliffe gets his years in prison that he so justly deserves.


White knight thread ! are you serious ? How do you get to that conclusion ?

A serial sex offender, a conversation on here, and because it is discussed openly and brought to the attention of others,  your opening statement makes the OP a white knight ? with the un savoury attachment that seems to draw on this and other forums !

so you think it's ok for any model to work with this man and possibly not have the available info highlighted on this thread and elsewhere to hand ! There should be more threads about him (and others) but no one apart from Iain had the balls to stand up and out him in the manner he did on here and kudos to Purestorm for allowing it.

Id rather be tagged with the name White Knight any day of the week if it kept a model safe somewhere down the line, and if there is one person on this forum who does not need to pull the " white knight " trick it is the op who is probably the most published photographer on this forum and presumably turns more models away in a month than i'd ever be lucky to work with in a lifetime.

You know, ive not shot in a while mostly due to other activities/hobbies and i've not been active on the forums, you've made me realise why again today.
Posted 27 Sep 2015
profilepictures
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profilepictures
dhuntuk
I do love these white knight threads. And, I do so hope that Mr Sutcliffe gets his years in prison that he so justly deserves.
Offering the benefit of the doubt, that you failed to glean that 'white knight' is a phrase commonly offered as sarcasm rather than praise? However, if you had intended some slur directed to the OP or others here, then I'm pretty unimpressed.
Posted 28 Sep 2015
xtiggerx
Photographer
xtiggerx
Dont Know if "white knight" phrase was a act of sarcasum or praise or POOR use of words but yet again...lets get at the guy who has added to the post....Some guys are happy to attack people who post when commenting about things "they" dont aggree with..Im NOT commenting about the OP's forum posting but the last two postings.....
This is why i rarely post on here...


Posted 28 Sep 2015
xtiggerx
Photographer
xtiggerx
And im sure ill get lambasted by the same guys or their "friends"......hey ho....

Posted 28 Sep 2015
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