Home Shoot Rates? /Advice

Home Shoot Rates? /Advice

26 posts
26 Nov 2014
Paul_J

i remember seeing a casting from a very established model asking for an additional cash contribution towards her electric bill should the photographer wish to use mains powered flash. i cannot help but feel that this comes across as being a little bit cheeky & had the potential to put people off working with her.



If its an all day shoot I don't think £5 on top of her fee is unreasonable (maybe not per hour though). I personally didn't charge more however if the space is good then its still working out as being cheaper than a studio even if its £5 per hour. We don't all live in showhomes so as well as getting herself ready she probably does have to spend an hour or so clearing clutter before a home shoot. 

There is a model on here who shoots from home and not only will it cost her in electricity she regurlarly updates the sets/rooms - so asking for an extra fee on top to me isn't "cheeky" and if anything having such a wonderful space and location to shoot from for £10 an hour extra is amazing value. If you were to rent a similar home for a day to shoot from it would cost a lot more.
Posted 27 Nov 2014
Paul_J
Photographer
Paul_J
Chrissie_Red

If its an all day shoot I don't think £5 on top of her fee is unreasonable (maybe not per hour though). I personally didn't charge more however if the space is good then its still working out as being cheaper than a studio even if its £5 per hour. We don't all live in showhomes so as well as getting herself ready she probably does have to spend an hour or so clearing clutter before a home shoot. 

There is a model on here who shoots from home and not only will it cost her in electricity she regurlarly updates the sets/rooms - so asking for an extra fee on top to me isn't "cheeky" and if anything having such a wonderful space and location to shoot from for £10 an hour extra is amazing value. If you were to rent a similar home for a day to shoot from it would cost a lot more.


i do appreciate her hourly rate for electricity could simply be changed into a charge for the use of premises & when compared to studio hire now doesn't look unreasonable.  but, in fairness, that isn't how her casting was worded & i still do feel, given she's already getting £40ph, making additional profit from a photographer by selling them electricity is, well, a little bit unnecessary (or cheeky!).  if you're accomodating the shoot surely giving a little bit of free electricity isn't too much to ask?

to relate that to the original poster, it's probable making any additional charge for the use of her home would cost her bookings (and reduce her overall income) as there will always be photographers who simply don't want to pay it.

if a model is in the fortunate position that she can design sets or re-decorate rooms with the idea of using them for shoots in mind, then that's fantastic & she has fair right to seek an additional hire fee (especially if she's laid out her own cash to create somewhere that benefits photographers).

but maybe that highlights that a little extra effort is required rather than working from a 'normal' family home to justify asking for a hire charge?
Posted 27 Nov 2014
Edited by Paul_J 27 Nov 2014
Wow well I wasn't expecting such a response, the reason I asked about a charge is because at the end of the day you are letting someone who you don't always know into the privacy of your own home, your saving them a lot of money by not shooting in a hotel or studio so hardly think its that unreasonable to charge a small fee.
It also takes time and effort to prepare your home, takes me 10mins to pack a bag of clothes takes me at least 2 hours to sort my house out.
Why do the photographers then not offer their own homes???
I won't be charging now myself so as not to loose certain jobs, but I don't see why it would be an issue.


Posted 28 Nov 2014
Chrissie_Red
If its an all day shoot I don't think £5 on top of her fee is unreasonable (maybe not per hour though). I personally didn't charge more however if the space is good then its still working out as being cheaper than a studio even if its £5 per hour. We don't all live in showhomes so as well as getting herself ready she probably does have to spend an hour or so clearing clutter before a home shoot.
  I totally agree with this my house certainly isn't a showroom its lived in but obviously takes time to prepare I'm quite surprised more models don't charge as you say a studio would be far more expensive.
Posted 28 Nov 2014
Edited by Sophiehotlips 27 Nov 2014
mph
Photographer
mph
Sophiehotlips
  I totally agree with this my house certainly isn't a showroom its lived in but obviously takes time to prepare I'm quite surprised more models don't charge as you say a studio would be far more expensive.
More time than travelling to and from a studio to say nothing of the fare? I doubt it.
Posted 28 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
Sophiehotlips

Why do the photographers then not offer their own homes

For the simple reason that if they did every model they shot there would have the same setting.

Sophiehotlips

I totally agree with this my house certainly isn't a showroom its lived in but obviously takes time to prepare I'm quite surprised more models don't charge as you say a studio would be far more expensive.

The cost of a studio is irrelevant - if a photographer wanted to shoot in a studio he would but the ambience of a studio is different - even if it had boudoir sets available studios tend to be cold for the model to work in (especially this time of year) and that shows in the photos. They're also comparatively expensive.

A more sensible comparison would be the cost of a budget hotel room. Typically £40 - perhaps less depending on the area. And you can generally accomodate 2 or even 3 shoots during the period of a booking. But I think you will also find that a significant proportion of photographers shooting in hotels do so because they're staying there in connection with their day job - and therefore it's being paid for by their employer, not them.

At the end of the day if a photographer wants a model who can shoot in their home he has plenty of choice available. And models who do so enjoy the fact that they don't have to spend time away from home. If anything their rates tend to be at the 'very reasonable' end of the market. Being able to shoot at home will get you more shoots but it won't enable you to charge a higher rate - if anything your rate might need to decrease as you're entering a very competitive end of the market.
Posted 28 Nov 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 28 Nov 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
Another thing to consider is that many photographers regard models who are able to shoot in their own homes to be much more reliable. Less chance of them cancelling at the last minute or no-showing altogether. Which generally makes such models more readily bookable.

Whereas expecting that same model to travel to a location - studio or wherever - doesn't present the same level of assurance regarding her potential reliability.

So it's not so much that the photographer is seeking to save on costs by shooting in her home (other than those which he might incur if he booked a studio and the model no-showed), but moreso that he's seeking to minimise his chances of being let down.
Posted 28 Nov 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 28 Nov 2014
Most of my bookings are now home shoots. I was worried at first as to just who I was letting in to my house, but I have only had one weirdo so far. I can usually tell from the enquiry if they have other ideas & then I just say I am not available. Doing a home shoot means I can get myself ready & have lots of clothes/outfits if needed.
It is often better for the photographers , cheaper than a studio & they don't have to worry about the lighting. Most of the pics on my profile are done at home..

Posted 29 Nov 2014
Kizer
Photographer
Kizer
mph
TFH  (Time for Hoover?)  No mug that girl! Mind you, I had one model who shot at my house complain it was too clean - you can't win! 
If you want to come and clean my house your welcome to do so
Posted 29 Nov 2014
mph
Photographer
mph
Kizer

If you want to come and clean my house your welcome to do so


Will you take my photo?  surprise (and don't push my levels!)

Posted 29 Nov 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Sophiehotlips

Wow well I wasn't expecting such a response, the reason I asked about a charge is because at the end of the day you are letting someone who you don't always know into the privacy of your own home, your saving them a lot of money by not shooting in a hotel or studio so hardly think its that unreasonable to charge a small fee. It also takes time and effort to prepare your home, takes me 10mins to pack a bag of clothes takes me at least 2 hours to sort my house out. Why do the photographers then not offer their own homes??? I won't be charging now myself so as not to loose certain jobs, but I don't see why it would be an issue.


I shoot from my place quite a lot.  I also pick up models from station etc.  So yes it saves on costs, but then I would just shoot less if that was the case.

If you had a room set up as  a studio then that might be different, but as has been said shooting from your home you save travel costs & time.

So pretty much quid pro quo..sad
Posted 29 Nov 2014
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