How do I downgrade my account?

How do I downgrade my account?

51 posts
8 May 2014
PaulManuell
Photographer
PaulManuell
marlhamphoto
(that question's rhetorical by the way).
Well I'm thicker than p1gsh1t, and therefore too dense to know that a rhetorical question doesn't require an answer, so I'll answer it. No, I wasn't being puerile in the post you referred to, I genuinely do give up before the end when looking at Platinum members' photos. Maybe it's cos I only have mobile internet and a tiny screen (and I'm talking Nokia C101, so not even a smart phone) and can't appreciate the seemingly endless reams of photos like I probably would on a large pc screen. Anyway, I've been steered off topic of the OP's thread since my initial on topic post, and that's unfair on her, so that's it from me on this one.
Posted 8 May 2014
SandyCamel
Photographer
SandyCamel
IainT

The forums might not be lively, but this is still the best "working" site for me. .



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Posted 8 May 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
Gerry99111

Those of you with "metal" membership will still be able to see how many models are on line at any time - then you may understand why people are reluctant to part with cash for paid membership

You can't have it both ways - saying that on the one hand PS is just a portfolio hosting site and on the other that because people aren't actually logged in the place isn't working.

Portfolio hosting makes perfect sense to me particularly alongside FB. Somewhere to host the style of images that FB won't tolerate. In recent years photographers have gradually become comfortable with FB and how to use it - and consequently that's where the visible activity has migrated. The most modern generations of modelling site have recognised the role FB now plays and have not even included a forum - just simple portfolio hosting. FB is such an integral part of peoples' daily lives that it's where virtually everyone turns to naturally as a communications and marketing medium. There's simply no need (nor desire) for people to log into their portfolio hosting provider in order to arrange bookings.
Posted 8 May 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 8 May 2014
artistoli
Photographer
artistoli
RedChecker

So they've had another purge of people who they hold a personal grudge against?


Lol. I lasted a couple of days there. It may be quieter here these days, but still a much more pleasant place to be. Mind you I must admit I've downgraded to a free accounty because the activity here doesn't justify paying. If things were to pick up around here (hint admin) then I'd certainly sign up for a paid account again. 
Posted 8 May 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
marlhamphoto

You can't have it both ways - saying that on the one hand PS is just a portfolio hosting site and on the other that because people aren't actually logged in the place isn't working..


My sarcasm was obviously missed on you. The site clearly states that portfolio hosting is its primary purpose including saying that on the home page and when people have suggested it should look at other areas for improvement, we have been told that its primary purpose is portfolio hosting. Maybe that should be looked at.

You also I think misread the rest of my post.

It was a simple statement that as there are few models now using the site, there is little justification for people to pay when they are all else where. If the site cures that problem then people will come back. All this talk of the forums on each site is a red herring. Its the attractiveness of the site to book shoots that is critical to its success or lack of. That and why have all the models gone and can some of them be got back.

Unless of course you think there are lots of active models on here and think the site doesn't need to do anything to rectify any perceived shortage?
Posted 8 May 2014
Edited by Gerry99111 8 May 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Even when this site had some pretty big egos on here it didn't compare to anything like the degree PP has and to be honest it's nauseating, probably mostly due to the fact that they get carte blanche on there to do as they please and anyone else even breathes wrong on there will get their collar felt by the management and most likely get some long winded e-mail about how you don't really belong or something along those lines.

Also on there the whole FPI & 'likes' thing while it gives publicity to some pretty much ignores everyone else, at least the setup on here gives everyone a level playing field to a degree, and in that respect makes it less of an exclusive club and thus we can get down to business as it were.

Posted 8 May 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
But you can use each of the sites without going anywhere near the forums. You can switch all or some of them off if you want. Its not compulsory.

Posted 8 May 2014
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
Gerry99111

My sarcasm was obviously missed on you. The site clearly states that portfolio hosting is its primary purpose including saying that on the home page and when people have suggested it should look at other areas for improvement, we have been told that its primary purpose is portfolio hosting. Maybe that should be looked at.

Sarcasm or disdain?

Why should they though? I think what I said in my post makes it clear that whilst a minority might hark back to the good old days times have changed.

Gerry99111

It was a simple statement that as there are few models now using the site, there is little justification for people to pay when they are all else where. If the site cures that problem then people will come back.

You seem to be suggesting that there's a specific problem with PS that prevents models joining or remainig and which can and should be fixed. Yet you don't say what you percieve that problem to be. Simply saying you don't like something but it's up to someone else to fix it, whatever it might be, isn't going to get you very far.

Gerry99111

All this talk of the forums on each site is a red herring. Its the attractiveness of the site to book shoots that is critical to its success or lack of. That and why have all the models gone and can some of them be got back.

If I'm considering booking a model it doesn't matter to me where his/her portfolio is hosted. I simply click on the link provided. The presence of a forum on that site makes no difference to me whatsoever. Perhaps you're accustomed to using forums to generate interest from models? Other than that I'm struggling to understand the point you're trying to make.

Gerry99111

Unless of course you think there are lots of active models on here and think the site doesn't need to do anything to rectify any perceived shortage?

As I've already said it makes no difference to me where the portfolio is hosted.

Having said that there is a significant problem with models who use PP for hosting. Having your FB feed filled with links to portfolios or images you can't view unless you're a member is tedious and invariably results in the model's FB being unfriended. I'm sure I'm not the only one that does that.
Posted 8 May 2014
Edited by marlhamphoto 8 May 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
marlhamphoto

Sarcasm or disdain?

Why should they though? I think what I said in my post makes it clear that whilst a minority might hark back to the good old days times have changed.


You seem to be suggesting that there's a specific problem with PS that prevents models joining or remainig and which can and should be fixed. Yet you don't say what you percieve that problem to be. Simply saying you don't like something but it's up to someone else to fix it, whatever it might be, isn't going to get you very far.


If I'm considering booking a model it doesn't matter to me where his/her portfolio is hosted. I simply click on the link provided. The presence of a forum on that site makes no difference to me whatsoever. Perhaps you're accustomed to using forums to generate interest from models? Other than that I'm struggling to understand the point you're trying to make.


As I've already said it makes no difference to me where the portfolio is hosted.

Having said that there is a significant problem with models who use PP for hosting. Having your FB feed filled with links to portfolios or images you can't view unless you're a member is tedious and invariably results in the model's FB being unfriended. I'm sure I'm not the only one that does that.


One more time and then I give in. The site will know how many models are left on this site and that is what is important if they need to act.

There are very few models left on the site who have logged on recently and are actively using it. Why are you going on about anything else. They have all left bar a small number. No one is interested in why they have gone or doing anything to get them back.

How many photographers do you think will pay to use this site if there is a handful of models left. The site will know far better than me but there is probably less than 10% of the models on here than 2 years ago.

How many long term photographers are on here? Again, I bet between 10 and 20% of 2 years ago.

They have not all just vanished. They have gone else where. Most of the models I have worked with are still active and working on other sites. Their account here has either been deactivated or set to free membership but either way, they are not using the site anymore and don't log on or answer emails here.

I will repeat again, I am making no point other than a lot of models and photographers have left the site and continue to do so or stop contributing to its upkeep [as the OP started this thread suggested].

If that position is not turned around, the site will cease to exist as it did before and have to become something else
Posted 8 May 2014
MG
Photographer
MG
Is it not the case that the more active forums are, the more people that visit the site so the more trouble there is going to be? It's not the sites fault, its the people that use it. All this site needs is a redisgn and an easier way to use it on mobile devices. That is all that pp has compared to this. I suspect Matt came to the realisation a while back that this is never going to make him any serious money so understandably lost the enthusiasm for it.... Now it's chicken and egg. Theres probably not enough paying members to go forwards....

So sorry Jaye, everyone has totally hijacked your thread now....

Posted 8 May 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
These sites come and go...like the ebbing of the tide. PP will be a shadow of its current self in a few years...only MM goes on and on.....
Posted 9 May 2014
Oh no it's fine - I like seeing people's views!
Posted 9 May 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
MG

. All this site needs is a redisgn and an easier way to use it on mobile devices. That is all that pp has compared to this. ...


Its a shame but I don't think its quite as simple as this. Whilst the grass is not "purpler" on the other side, too many models have left because those that don't want to shoot adult or glamour used to get swamped by chancers trying to push their levels. offering them stuff that was really not going to appeal or start flirting with them rather than try and book them for shoots. Or swamp newbies with unnattractive shoot offers.

I am not saying the other sites are without their problems but for many models with the exception of the seasoned adult and glamour models, this site was always seen as a place with a dark side that they don't like. So when a bright and shiny newcomer came along, it was easy for people to shift allegences.

Maybe PS should play to its strengths and market itself as a glamour / adult model site and inject some new features and maybe it will establish a viable niche where the models and photographers can see a lot of value in being here and paying for membership?

I think the site had a good reputation for dealing with blatent abusers of the site when they had evidence of someone using the site messaging system. Its all the low level persistent problems [mainly caused by some photographers] that just seemed to go on unchecked for years and years with no sign these people would be hunted down and discouraged from behaving in such a way that is the thing that most models will happily tell you in private is their issue with the site.
Posted 9 May 2014
Edited by Gerry99111 9 May 2014
Socialdisaster
Photographer
Socialdisaster
You may find the forums here dead, rightly. But is the grass greener? This is what the otehr site currently looks like to a non user: Hardly indepth photography and modelling discussion.
Posted 9 May 2014
Rawandthecooked
Photographer
Rawandthecooked
There are plenty of disgruntled pp users, another site will rise! Moderation in moderation is key! A site without active forums will not last!


Posted 9 May 2014
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