Flooding

24 posts
11 Feb 2014
Bob
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Bob
stolenfaces

Which lefties?

The blinkered Loony Lefties on the forums who seem to believe that every problem, be it caused by thirteen years of Brown/Blair incompetence or even by Mother Nature / God / Allah / Deity of Choice etc., must somehow be directly attributable to the present Government. This is a perennial problem which surfaces every time the Left loses power and it usually persists until they get back into power, at which point they get down of their soapbox. It's almost as depressing as the current weather.
Bob


Posted 12 Feb 2014
artistoli
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artistoli
I think there is a bigger root problem here; as a civilisation we have come to see everything through the prism of the last couple of hundred years at maximum. We judge everything based on the time scales of our short lives, or the even shorter careers of specific institutions, agencies and governments. We build and live accordingly. This is the problem. Whether or not you subscribe to the man-made climate change theories or not, one thing is clear. If you look back through the history of the planet - not of our current civilisation - it will become clear that catastrophic change is normal. Hugely brutal weather events and natural disasters are the norm. The scale of some of these events in the deep past (from our point of view) is staggering.

We need to get our heads out of our asses and open our eyes. Everything we have built is incredibly vulnerable, has been built during a relatively quiet period, and if the planet just does what it has always done then there will be many more shocks for us. We don't own the planet, it is not a garden. Building cities a few metres above sea level, criss-crossing everywhere with fragile roads, railways, pipes and cables, relying on very precise irrigation and drainage systems.... well, I just don't see how it 'gels' with the planet's natural ways.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
Bob
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Bob
artistoli

I think there is a bigger root problem here; as a civilisation we have come to see everything through the prism of the last couple of hundred years at maximum.

Some do not even look back that far, and only take what is effectively the television age, or even the 24-hour news age, into consideration. The low-lying wetlands area of the Somerset Moors (not the slightly higher Somerset Levels, which the mainstream media mistakenly refers to the afflicted area as) has seen several much worse flood episodes since 1600 caused by a combination of surge tides and prolonged heavy rainfall. However, as there is no television footage of these events mention of it doesn't feature too highly in current broadcasts.
Bob
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by Bob 12 Feb 2014
tonycsm
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tonycsm
Never mind all this political namecalling and blame - here are the real culprits where all this flooding is concerned!indecision

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2014/jan/21/how-same-sex-marriage-causes-floods


Posted 12 Feb 2014
tonycsm
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tonycsm
Never mind all this political namecalling and blame - here are the real culprits where all this flooding is concerned!indecision

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2014/jan/21/how-same-sex-marriage-causes-floods


Posted 12 Feb 2014
redbaron
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redbaron
What some farmers quietly forget to mention is that they are paid to recompense them against damage if there fields are flooded. Some flooding of farm land is quite deliberate and part of the action taken, quite properly to divert water away from residential areas. If you challenge mother nature your will lose. The best you can do is work with her

People are frustrated and angry, which is an understandable reaction but a lot of the demands are unrealistic. You cannot prepare contingincies for every possible eventuality and this is a one in 250 year event. Are we to start demolishing and replacing all buildings that are not earthquake proof in case one of the faults in the UK has a major slip after millenia of stability?

Look at the homes shown many are modern buildings erected on known flood plains. Oh and during the previous governments tenure but as Bob said that does not count because you are not supposed to critisise Labour. Economy trashed? Not us guv, Hospitals not fit for the third world? Nah, all happend overnight the instant the Tory toffs took over. Schools? but they waz wunderful did u not see all them A levels wot our kids got.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
redbaron
What some farmers quietly forget to mention is that they are paid to recompense them against damage if there fields are flooded. Some flooding of farm land is quite deliberate and part of the action taken, quite properly to divert water away from residential areas. If you challenge mother nature your will lose. The best you can do is work with her People are frustrated and angry, which is an understandable reaction but a lot of the demands are unrealistic. You cannot prepare contingincies for every possible eventuality and this is a one in 250 year event. Are we to start demolishing and replacing all buildings that are not earthquake proof in case one of the faults in the UK has a major slip after millenia of stability? Look at the homes shown many are modern buildings erected on known flood plains. Oh and during the previous governments tenure but as Bob said that does not count because you are not supposed to critisise Labour. Economy trashed? Not us guv, Hospitals not fit for the third world? Nah, all happend overnight the instant the Tory toffs took over. Schools? but they waz wunderful did u not see all them A levels wot our kids got.
About 15 per cent of all properties in the capital are built on the Thames floodplain, according to the EA. [reported in this Channel 4 news piece http://www.channel4.com/news/floods-crisis-london-underwater] As virtually no houses have been built under the current government, you are right that they can't be blamed for building lots of homes on flood plains (or anywhere). Were you a beneficiary of the government giving away Royal Mail to their friends and supporters ?
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 12 Feb 2014
DorsetHammer
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DorsetHammer
redbaron

What some farmers quietly forget to mention is that they are paid to recompense them against damage if there fields are flooded. Some flooding of farm land is quite deliberate and part of the action taken, quite properly to divert water away from residential areas. .


Most of the flooded land in Somerset is grade 4 or even grade 5 in some cases, you don't make a living from that quality of land however long you farm it for - you keep horses for the weekend on it or a few sheep.
Posted 24 Feb 2014
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