Surely you should be advocating that MPs could be more efficient and receive performance related pay, I guess IDS would be well into negative territory by now [I realise he's a minister and gets twice as much pay because he is actually in charge of something]. or maybe like footballers they could be officially sponsored with nice little logos on their arms. We could operate a free market in MPs where each person's vote being worth £x and the elected mp gets the money that the electorate think each individual is worth... this would be considerably more sane than the Railways 'free market' What do MPs actually do? mainly turn up and vote when the whips tell them to, how much is that really worth. What actual skills do you need to just do what you're told (by the party, not the electorate). I'm sure they all got first dibs at the Royal Mail sell-off trough and most of the Tories have nice holdings/jobs/consultancies in the companies who are being given lucrative contracts in the NHS sell-off (as revealed in the Guardian - google it!). Were far-eastern betting syndicates really putting money on how many times Osbourne would say 'Difficult decisions' in his autumn statement ? Surely some money to be made there....tonycsmWhen you get prima donna football players kicking a ball around that earn 20, 30, 40...times the annual wage of MP's and even the PM who have all the responsibility of looking after the country, it somehow puts their wages into perspective. As RC has indicated, it's not the MPs who are seeking wage increases, it's the body in charge of setting their wages suggesting they accept it!
I'd hate to be a socialist!
Were far-eastern betting syndicates really putting money on how many times Osbourne would say 'Difficult decisions' in his autumn statement ? Surely some money to be made there....
. or maybe like footballers they could be officially sponsored with nice little logos on their arms. ....
We'd all be mindless (& useless) sheep as there'd be no carrot & stick to entice us to better ourselves and no desire to contribute more.
Oh stop being reasonable!LaurenceJPowerI think that people should read past the point about the 11% increase in pay. The point is that their remuneration package, i.e. all the extra benefits that many people get, is NOT increasing, thus all that is happening is that the package is changing shape, I am not sure, but this could actually mean that they get less cash in their hands because they will pay more tax. One thing that I do know, their pension scheme is costing individuals more money, i.e. the cost split is changing to reduce the government (i.e. our) contribution, and increasing theirs, which since they and local government employees are one of the few groups with a decent final salary pension, can only be a good thing. Many flexible benefit packages operate in this way, you want more holiday, fine you lose a bit of pay, you want more life cover, you lose a bit more pay, choice is up to you.
Not just MPs, there is historic shortfalls in many public sector pay that has not been addressed averaging around 13% for university support staffs. I wish this independent body that asses MPs back pay increase would come and asses other public workers pay. However that is unlikely to happen.
Some have and some took second jobs to supplement the shortfall. I'm comparing public sector with public sector, no need to bringing in private sector in your rebuttal. I've worked in the private sector too and I like some of ths ethics of private companies so you can forget the socialist bashing here. I'm all for performance related and more one put in the more one get out. My family has a business for nearly 30years. When I left school in the 80s during the reign of Maggie Thatcher I did'nt join the dole queu like many of my fellow school leavers in the era of high unemployment. I was a computer field service engineer for companies with multi million pound contracts and in those less PC days I was the only none white face and I need to work harder than my colleagues just to be respected as an equal.tonycsmIf workers are not happy with their pay in the Public Sector they can always move into the Private Sector!
Isn't that a bit like saying "If MPs aren't happy with their pay they can always find another job"?tonycsmIf workers are not happy with their pay in the Public Sector they can always move into the Private Sector!