Our FRACKING government ! Cheap gas my A***

Our FRACKING government ! Cheap gas my A***

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10 April 2013
HowardJ
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HowardJ
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If the choice is nuclear or fracking ? then stick a wind turbine in my garden any day.
I think they've said we don't get enough of sufficient strength to get enough generation capacity and what do you do on calm days? You'd need to be storing the wind generated power for use later.
Posted 13 April 2013
photostore
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Not sure about the strength thing Howard, Where i live they have just put up 9 outside the local town which i look on from my vantage point at the highest part of that town (small Scots town so more like a large village really) They are pretty much in constant movement as a lot of time (years) was spent with mini towers across the landscape locally testing it)and as for storage capacity i agree and would imagine that is an area that a lot of work is being done on ? There were the usual debates before they went up which i found laughable given they are situated right next to Mossmorran petrochemical cracker plant (for anyone that remembers the flixborough disaster it's similar i believe just much bigger)and given that it had a 20 year lifespan then was to be decommisioned ? but has just had a 25 year extension at the point of expiry all authorised without public debate i think we have other things to worry about around here The dammned plant fails monthly and the resultant safety protocal means it goes into flare mode burning of the gas in the pipeline which cannot be stopped pumping from Aberdeen, the result is a flare hundreds of feet high and a rumbling noise like an army tank core driving through the town for days at a time BRING ON ALTERNATIVES TO FOSSIL/GAS FUELS I SAY !
Posted 13 April 2013
Bob
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Bob
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The company also owns licences to drill in the Chancellor George Osborne's constituency of Tatton.


Well nobody can accuse George of being a NIMBY if he hasn't used his influence so send the frackers elsewhere.

Incidentally, I've never understood why NIMBYs are so anti something as intrinsically gracious and beautiful, not to mention environmentally sound, as wind farms.

Unlike solar farms (I live very close to the second biggest in the UK) wind farms don't need to be guarded around the clock to prevent TPBs stealing the valuable metals and they also make great backdrops. I can't wait for my local wind farm to be built ..... though I may have to, as the NIMBYs are bleating like spring lambs that they will spoil their view of a boring flat and currently featureless landscape.

Bob
Posted 13 April 2013
Edited by Bob 13 April 2013
HowardJ
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HowardJ
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Not sure about the strength thing Howard, Where i live they have just put up 9 outside the local town which i look on from my vantage point at the highest part of that town (small Scots town so more like a large village really) They are pretty much in constant movement as a lot of time (years) was spent with mini towers across the landscape locally testing it)and as for storage capacity i agree and would imagine that is an area that a lot of work is being done on ? There were the usual debates before they went up which i found laughable given they are situated right next to Mossmorran petrochemical cracker plant (for anyone that remembers the flixborough disaster it's similar i believe just much bigger)and given that it had a 20 year lifespan then was to be decommisioned ? but has just had a 25 year extension at the point of expiry all authorised without public debate i think we have other things to worry about around here The dammned plant fails monthly and the resultant safety protocal means it goes into flare mode burning of the gas in the pipeline which cannot be stopped pumping from Aberdeen, the result is a flare hundreds of feet high and a rumbling noise like an army tank core driving through the town for days at a time BRING ON ALTERNATIVES TO FOSSIL/GAS FUELS I SAY !
I'm sure the strength is fine in some places but I believe research has found sticking smaller wind turbines around towns won't work due to the wind not being strong enough or coming from the right direction. We're going to end up with a mix of energy source: Wind (20%?), Solar (30%?), Tidal (10%?) but all of these are subject to weather conditions. We'll need another source to provide the base and it needs to be something you can bring on to the national grid predictably and quickly. At the moment we have hydro, coal and nuclear. Coal is due to be shutdown to meet the carbon emissions targets and hydro is limited due to the few naturally occurring locations that make it effective. Nuclear is probably where we need to be heading. There was an interesting article in Wired about 8 years ago about nuclear really was the lowest environmental impact solution. I think even the Japanese are going to have to accept that longer term even though they're pulling away from it now. We've gotten ourselves into an awkward position through lack of consistent direction from the government and lack of investment from our energy companies. If you were an energy company operating in the UK you'd be slightly confused and not motivated to spend money on generation infrastructure as you can make a few quid from the mess the government has created.
Posted 13 April 2013
Edited by HowardJ 13 April 2013
diipii
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diipii
Anything is better than nuclear.

Posted 14 April 2013
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