Chaperones

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3 Aug 2011
SimonFairclough
Photographer
SimonFairclough
If you bring a chaperone fine but you need to tell me before the shoot not just turn up with one, also if there are other models there they might not want to work in front of another models BF (its always the BF).
If you must bring a chaperone try and make it a MUA or hairstylist.

Posted 3 Aug 2011
Hugh
Photographer
Hugh
Oh, and why should I trust you and your chaperone?

The two of you might be planning to rape and murder me...




Posted 3 Aug 2011
My chaperone is normally my mum. She has nothing to do with the shoot just stands there. Then helps me in and out of my outfits. For one it's quicker. She stands on the sideline and keeps quiet. I tell any chaperone I have that they can't interject into the shoot. It's just between me and the photographer. My chaperone is also there to get me to where I need to go.

I would never put my safety on a shoot in jeopardy that's why I have a chaperone. If you don't take certain precautions you are putting yourself in harms way.

That's what I think about it to be honest

Posted 3 Aug 2011
PUNKuate
Photographer
PUNKuate
KerryW91
If you don't take certain precautions you are putting yourself in harms way.
I don't think any models I've worked with are putting themselves in harms way by coming to a shoot, unless maybe they get hit by a car on the way there or the ceiling collapses on them... and I'm not sure how useful a chaperone would be in those situations.
Posted 3 Aug 2011
Simon_P
Photographer
Simon_P
KerryW91

My chaperone is normally my mum. She has nothing to do with the shoot just stands there. Then helps me in and out of my outfits. For one it's quicker. She stands on the sideline and keeps quiet. I tell any chaperone I have that they can't interject into the shoot. It's just between me and the photographer. My chaperone is also there to get me to where I need to go. I would never put my safety on a shoot in jeopardy that's why I have a chaperone. If you don't take certain precautions you are putting yourself in harms way. That's what I think about it to be honest


You're probably at more risk going to the cash point, going shopping, going down the pub etc.
Do your homework and get references as others have said.

In the end it's your call whether you have a Macaroon or not, some photographers wont mind, some will and some will be indifferent about them, having one may cost you bookings.

You are likely, regardless of your opinion, to get some fairly strong opinions here, simply because it is one of the most covered and oldest topics out there.
Posted 4 Aug 2011
Iconic
Photographer
Iconic
KerryW91

is it right or wrong to take a chaperone with you to a shoot? I'm asking views on this because I don't know what to do. I had a nasty letter off a photographer telling me I'd never be a model because I have a chaperone with me for my safety.


in my opinion - if the photographer has a good port and references then no-

telling someone you are bringing someone for your protection is offensive you don't take someone to the shop with you for protection do you?

i wont have chaperones unless the model needs one because of a medical reason - this is simply because i feel like im put on the spot with a spotlight on me if there ate more people there and they allot of the time are a distraction rather than an aid -

if the photographer's work looks tacky and they have no or very few references etc then maybe take a chaperone if they refuse to have one - pick a better photographer

you do get bad seed's but there are far more good ones and if your smart in who you choose to work with you should avoid the arses

deffo check out model bitch

Nobody needs:
  • A glowering, angry boyfriend in the corner
  • A 'mate' who robs them blind while shooting
  • Someone that trips over a wire, twists their ankle and sues the photographer
  • A mother that takes over the entire shoot
  • A jealous friend wimpering in the corner
  • Someone bored shitless and wondering why they're there
  • A 'photographer friend' stealing ideas and set ups
  • An extra person on set that distracts from the work and makes the model and photographer feel inhibited



You do not bring an escort to a job interview.
You do not bring an escort to the gyno.
You do not bring an escort to a date.
You do not bring an escort to the corner shop.
You do not bring an escort to the gym.


Posted 4 Aug 2011
Edited by Iconic 3 Aug 2011
Right thanks guys and gals deffinately have made me think more about this. Plus some really good tips thanks for all your help really appreciate it
Posted 4 Aug 2011
Sarge
Photographer
Sarge
Iconic
You do not bring an escort to a job interview. You do not bring an escort to the gyno. You do not bring an escort to a date. You do not bring an escort to the corner shop. You do not bring an escort to the gym.
Your correct, but you cant really use them as a comparison. The only one would be the gyno, but having said that they are a medical professional, and you would think that they would have a great deal of experience and more to lose in a professional practice. The others can be compared as you dont really get your clothes off in a 1 on 1 situation. I am not disagreeing though as i dont dont really like chaperones, but do allow them as i know that the models are usually nervous or possibly untrusting to begin with, and that is fine by me and part of human nature. To the OP, please read the tips on keeping models safe thread, so you can make every possible move to protect yourself and the need for chaperones less.
Posted 4 Aug 2011
whicker
Photographer
whicker


Actually, there ARE chaperones in the medical profession:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaperone_(clinical)


Posted 4 Aug 2011
Edited by whicker 4 Aug 2011
IRONBLOKEMAN
Photographer
IRONBLOKEMAN
Personally I have never had any problems with chaperones.Maybe it is because 99% of my work is outdoor locations.Also I live in a very beautiful part of the country.Once a chaperone has hung around the shoot for half-an-hour or more they tend to wander off to explore or find the nearest pub!

Posted 4 Aug 2011
Actually, now I think about it, I bring a chaperone with me when I give blood - I'm scared of needles and always cry.

Above examples (date/job interview/gym/etc) I feel are relevant. Job interview you're in a strange building with a strange person - what if they locked the door and then had their metaphorical way with you? A date - he pretends to be charming throughout dinner, then when you head off to the movie he gropes you and won't stop when asked. Gym - what if you're working out just before closing time with no one else around and the creepy receptionist comes in to lock up...? If you assume that everyone around you has ulterior motives the world becomes much scarier extremely quickly.

I don't think nudity makes me more vulnerable on a shoot. A kick to the balls is just as effective either way. :P And I'd leave the shoot nude if I felt I was in imminent danger: better to be embarrassed and to shock random passer bys than to have physical harm come to me.

Posted 4 Aug 2011
garymck
Photographer
garymck
They don't bother me, however, if you accept a temp job in an office for a day, do you take a chaperone.

Drop off and pick up nice compromise .

Posted 4 Aug 2011
whicker
Photographer
whicker
Tansy_Blue

Gym - what if you're working out just before closing time with no one else around and the creepy receptionist comes in to lock up...? 


Most people I know go to the gym with friends. For sure, whether they feel they NEED to "for safety" is a different matter.

Posted 4 Aug 2011
I was trying on clothes in Dorothy Perkins, they didn't check the changing rooms, I was locked in. I didn't have a chaperone then. I was beaten up in the middle of town last summer, 5pm on a Sunday afternoon, by a gang of chavs, boyfriend couldn't do anything. You could be run over by a car tomorrow. You can't live your life in fear that everyone's out to get you. I don't think modelling is for people who have a nervous/distrusting disposition.

Posted 4 Aug 2011
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
I worked with an exceptionally innexperienced model last night on location. She brought a female friend for company which I knew about. The location was in some of the main thoroughfares of London and it was more a confidence and empathy thing and to be honest, her friend was an asset, keeping an eye on her bag and offereing a second opinion on my comments about expression which helped the model no end.

I am afraid that is where it ends with chaperones for me - they have to be an asset not an ass on a shoot. Is a model able to provide references to the effect that the proposed chaperone is none of these and would be an asset. No references, no job.

I would not even let some one pay me to endure an over bearing mother, jeleous boyfriend or thief seeing what they could nick while my attention is diverted. Unless I can see a specific benefit, they are a hinderence.

I have some good references and if someone cannot be bothered to do their research on me and look at the situation and assess the risk [as we all have to do] I would rather not take the booking under any circumstances.

I work collaboratively with models and where present, MUA's, studio owners and general helpers. I will not tolerate third parties in the same way a model would be upset if I chose to bring a third party to watch the shoot as I could imagine that would be pretty unsettling.


Posted 4 Aug 2011
Edited by Gerry99111 4 Aug 2011
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