Havn't logged in to this site in a while now i see why it seems it has...

Havn't logged in to this site in a while now i see why it seems it has died a death ?

178 posts
21 Jan 2014
All I hear from togs is that models mess them around, no show, reply a few times then stop, just generally mess them around. I can't understand why models would turn down work?! They must be bloody crazy! I have never no showed & am always keen to arrange as many shoots as possible. There are genuine, hard working models out there, it's just finding them. Don't give up Katie
Posted 30 Jan 2014
stolenfaces
Photographer
stolenfaces
Do you think the first site to introduce automatic skin-smoothing to uploaded photos will attract more models?
Maybe some robots that comment positively on random photos (although maybe there are already enough 'real' members doing this on sites that are already full of sycophantic philistines).

Why did myspace fade to nothing... not because facebook took all their members, but because when they started losing members they kept on copying facebook. Those who were happy with myspace left because myspace became a very poor imitation of facebook rather than keeping the members who didn't like facebook by building on the myspace strengths (personalisation and band profile/music).

My view of purestorm strengths is that it doesn't have tiny cropped thumbnails, ( and that you have to pay quite a lot of money to have a seemingly infinite portfolio).
I like the way you can glance at a portfolio and immediately get an impression of what a model's profile has to offer. I like the back links to other members photos.
For all it's issues I think the references system here works reasonably well.
The forums here may be quieter but most of the 'lovely hun' comments which ex-members used to post are no loss.
Personally I don't want to connect stuff here with facebook or twitter. If i did want to, I would do it from facebook.

That was a bit of a ramble, but my point is that it would be more useful if people were to list what they like about purestorm so that no-one takes away it's strengths in an effort to modernise. (Personally I hate the USA ness of MM and the retro look of PP)


Posted 30 Jan 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 30 Jan 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
I am not sure canvassing the thoughts of the few who still use PS as their primary model site will ensure it gets its mojo back as a vibrant site.

PS used to be a place where models could obtain decent work from plenty of serious photographers and in particular, it was a place where art nude had a lot of respect.

I am more interested to hear how these models can be encouraged back to use the site. Part of it has to be a consideration of what caused them to leave or use the site less and part has to be why it is they find other sites a better bet.

I really am baffled why people are making so much of a fuss over thumbnails and other site interfaces - eg Facebook and Twitter links. Most models are under 30 and operate their lives around social media. Just because some photographers chose to live in the past - if the site operates that strategy, no models will stay and we will get no further forward.

I assume [hope] PS wants more from the site than making a comfortable forum environment for the old guard to reminisce how good things used to be and how crap it is on those new fangled sites that have successfully nicked all the models

Posted 30 Jan 2014
JohnB
Photographer
JohnB
I have just checked my inbox & approx 30% of the models are now banned presumably for posting misdemeanours.
I shot on Tuesday with probably the most active adult model around at the moment & she has been banned for b/g reasons.
There will soon be no one left!
Isnt it time to put away the ban-hammer?
John

Posted 30 Jan 2014
BrazenDivas
Photographer
BrazenDivas
anthonyh
Not everyone has your level of disposable income which (assuming the average shoot costs around £100 in fees and expenses) would suggest (based on above) you spend at least £4000 p.a. on your hobby. Maybe those who can only afford say one paid shoot a month see things from a different perspective. And of course they might be spending that money via other sites. Or like me, photographing models is not my main photographic interest but I am still consious of the relative merits of the model sites I belong to.
Excellent post.
Posted 30 Jan 2014
johnlp
Photographer
johnlp
Katielouxox

All I hear from togs is that models mess them around, no show, reply a few times then stop, just generally mess them around. I can't understand why models would turn down work?! They must be bloody crazy! I have never no showed & am always keen to arrange as many shoots as possible. There are genuine, hard working models out there, it's just finding them. Don't give up Katie


Hi Katie, I'm one of the big moaners in this matter, although I try very hard to resist.  The vast majority of models aren't time wasters, but it can be very difficult to spot those that are, and then it can put a huge dampener on my enthusiasm if I unfortunately get a string of them.  I the last 9 months I've been fortunate to work with a whole range of talented models, with only a couple of cancellations, one no-show and three who's interest just evaporated.  I genuinely believe that there is room for a number of sites like PS, but the trick is retaining the models with a proven track record.


Posted 30 Jan 2014
cziiki
Photographer
cziiki

Purestorm: [Site removed in accordance with 6.1.4 of the Terms of Use]

Posted 30 Jan 2014
jivago
Photographer
jivago
stolenfaces

 My view of purestorm strengths is that it doesn't have tiny cropped thumbnails,. For all it's issues I think the references system here works reasonably well. The forums here may be quieter but most of the 'lovely hun' comments which ex-members used to post are no loss. Personally I don't want to connect stuff here with facebook or twitter. If i did want to, I would do it from facebook........... useful if people were to list what they like about purestorm so that no-one takes away it's strengths in an effort to modernise. (Personally I hate the USA ness of MM and the retro look of PP)


Superb!

What's good about PureStorm?  

1. It kicks off the nefarious
2. It does not use cropped thumbnails - If it ever does a lot will leave!!!!
3. Its not a kiddies playground like another site
4. Its about connecting photographers and models - Not social media cheeky
5. It does not have 'clique-medals' rewarded for how many retro filters are used. 
6. It has a good reference system

It could learn some from sites like Zenfolio.

Posted 30 Jan 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
Just to throw something else into the discussion.......surprise


LINK REMOVED 
Posted 31 Jan 2014
Edited by Chosin 31 Jan 2014
stolenfaces
Photographer
stolenfaces
anthonyh

Just to throw something else into the discussion.......





LINK REMOVED 


Sum total of the thread (ignoring the 'lovely hun' 'thanks hun' posts) is that some people there seem to like the trashy thumbnails and some have problems loading Purestorm !!! I know there have been occasional problems of that nature, but can't say I have ever noticed a general issue.

And then there's Tamoo who seems less interested whether people actually book anyone on PP, only on their huge number of non-paying and probably non-modeling, non-photographing members.
Posted 31 Jan 2014
Edited by Chosin 31 Jan 2014
JohnB
Photographer
JohnB
Its nothing to do with thumbnails, its to do with the fact there is no-one left. They have either been banned or hasled off here. Get rid of those who prey on new models &welcome those who work to higher levels.
The world will keep spinning whether PS is on it or not

John


Posted 31 Jan 2014
PaulManuell
Photographer
PaulManuell
Thought I'd have a look at Purpleport to see what all the fuss is about. Now I'll be the first to admit I'm not very internet savvy, not even owning a computer, just a basic mobile with internet, but even trying to do a search on there flummoxed me. After what seemed like an eternity ticking all the boxes (and there're loads of them) and waiting for each individual one to load each time, I couldn't then find a 'Go' or 'Search' option to click on to show the models fitting the criteria I'd painstakingly filled out. All I could see was a picture of what looked like a cog, but hovering over it never gave me the option to click on it, so I just gave up. Whatever faults Purestorm has, at least it's easy for thickos like me to navigate.

Posted 31 Jan 2014
SandyCamel
Photographer
SandyCamel
JohnB

. The world will keep spinning whether PS is on it or not John





Say what ? 



It is true that we are all  'here today, gone tomorrow, next please'  -  Pure-storm, lesser web-sites, me,  you,  everything  .....



Just a bit of context there me thinks.   




Posted 31 Jan 2014
silverlight
Photographer
silverlight
I Joined Purestorm along time ago - I was looking for models to photograph because I wanted to become a photographer, I joined because I had that passion for the medium.
I only went onto the forums because a model I worked with directed me to a thread talking about my pictures. Since then i have fallen in and out of love with forums.

To be honest, I have seen threads that have made me want to never shoot again.
I have seen threads that have made me laugh so much i have almost died.
& I have seen threads with wonderful images that have been really inspirational.

Now I am a full time Photographer, I shoot fashion, product, weddings and portfolios & portraits my work is diverse but it is always 99%people.
However today I shot some products for a magazine in the morning and some editorial images for a DJ in the afternoon.

Tomorrow I am having meetings with 2 couples for me to shoot there wedding. on Thursday I will be shooting for a hairdressing chain.

I have won Photographer of the year, been published by the sunday times "full page" and have had "proper exhibitions of my work".
People travel many miles to have training with me - I have trained fleet street photographers who have shot celebrities I can only dream of working with.

Why am I blabbing on about this ? Well it all started right here on Purestorm. And I am very grateful this site existed and still does.







Posted 31 Jan 2014
Edited by silverlight 31 Jan 2014
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
stolenfaces

Sum total of the thread (ignoring the 'lovely hun' 'thanks hun' posts) is that some people there seem to like the trashy thumbnails and some have problems loading Purestorm !!! I know there have been occasional problems of that nature, but can't say I have ever noticed a general issue.

And then there's Tamoo who seems less interested whether people actually book anyone on PP, only on their huge number of non-paying and probably non-modeling, non-photographing members.

I don't know where you are getting the impression that PS is the only site where models get booked. You have four models references for 2013 on your PS portfolio. If you check out the number of references these models have gathered in the last year on PS and PP the results are as follows:

Jade_Isabella: (platinum member), PS 18, PP 99
Sami_C : (gold member), PS 18, PP 18
Lulu Lockhart: (gold member), PS 26, PP 130
Annica_Janee: (free member), PS 20, PP 5

Draw your own conclusions from the above stats.



Posted 31 Jan 2014
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