POLITICS - I Want out - EU

POLITICS - I Want out - EU

403 posts
24 May 2016
Mr_Catz
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Mr_Catz

I must be getting old because I still remember when Britain was still respected around the world. I like democracy; the one thing that the EU is against is democracy -

https://www.brexitthemovie.com/

I would be grateful if people would not watch the 1st 30 seconds of this video and then form a judgement. This little video is at least 45 minutes long! frown

I sincerely hope that we can debate politely and respect other people's points of view. cheeky

Posted 24 May 2016
photostore
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photostore
well if the film is 45 mins long that will be 35 more minutes of info than we have had so far

but it's not all negativity, there is a job in brussels for everyone (who wants to draw a wage from  politics) and be unanswerable to anyone, the top honcho is not even voted for by the people just selected by his chronies
Posted 24 May 2016
Edited by photostore 24 May 2016
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Mr_Catz
redbaron
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redbaron
Watched it a week or so ago. Obviously it is one sided, albeit the side I'm inclining towards at the moment but at least it does have some concrete information. Something that has been startlingly absent from the campaign so far on either side. The last week or so I have begun to wonder if Boris and Grove are simply running a Trojan horse out campaign intended to ensure we do not get too many good reasons to leave.

Sadly it is all feeling a little familiar. I have been around now long enough to remember the original 1975 campaign. And also the proof of all the lies made then when the records were finally released. Apparently it is going to cost me £4.5K if I vote for Brexit. Sounds like a bargain at the moment

Posted 24 May 2016
photostore
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photostore
well i was convinced before the film that it was brexit for me, this just reminded me as to a few of the reasons. Problem is i live in Scotland so i'd no sooner have my arse out than the snp would attempt to have me back in again
Posted 24 May 2016
JohnEnger
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JohnEnger
Whatever you do don't substitute your membersho for a deal like we did here in Norway.
1. It is in confilf with our constitution.
2. It makes you follow most EU directives.
3. It gives you no vote in any desicions made.
4. Free untaxed trade is not a part of the deal...

We sure got the fuzzy end of that lollipop, and most of our politicians don't even realize it.
I guess you have to be some kind of special to be a politician...

So my advise is stay in, og get all the way out!


J.



Posted 24 May 2016
RedChecker
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RedChecker
I'm amazed it's taken this long for a in/out EU post to appear on here.

I want out. Things like costs, price fluctuations, jobs etc. are secondary to the fact we'll be able to make our own laws and not be dictated to by Brussels.

Uncontrolled immigration / open borders is also a large concern... I'm quite happy for us to pick & chose a limited number of the best (say 50,000 a year) but having hundreds of thousands a year whose backgrounds/intentions are completely unknown is totally unacceptable and IMO is too much of a risk to both security and preserving our culture/values.

Posted 24 May 2016
RedChecker
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RedChecker
... plus we were lied to from the start... it was sold to us on the basis of trade only, not selling our sovereignty.

Posted 24 May 2016
magpie1
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magpie1
One hears, think it was UKIP, there could be up to 1 million vampires flooding in to Britain when Transylvania gets full EU membership. Nigel ( Lord) Lawson had no reservations about UK membership when he was our, very well paid, Commissioner.

Ah, the good old days of Empire when Britain just sent an army to 'negotiate' with Jonny Foreigner, and The Times headline "fog in Channel Continent isolated."



Posted 24 May 2016
Havocphotography
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Havocphotography
Everyone I see who wants out appears to be an old grumpy racist nationalist bigot. But hey. That's the joy of a democracy, and I *do* value that.

I'm voting in.

Posted 24 May 2016
Edited by Havocphotography 24 May 2016
Dirkus
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Dirkus
Greetings

I believe in freedom, independence and home rule, pity our Government hasn't got the guts to do that!!!!!

Staying in scares me, we will be ruled over by an iron rod from Brussels for sure !!!!!!

I'll be voting out

Have fun

Posted 24 May 2016
profilepictures
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profilepictures
Well, for the jingoistic elderly folk and simpletons who want out - it would be painful,to hear that it was a dream of Churchill himself to form an alliance with Europe and UK lawyers and judges who drew up the framework. You can vote out of the EU, but will still be bound by European law.

Luckily, European law is considerably more reasonable for the average person, and accepts at the outset that we are citizens rather than subjects of the crown (you remember, nice german/greek family with a divine right to be better than you?)

The Tories are doing all they can to pull off a bluff here, both sides of the argument want us firmly in their control as snivelling mud grubbing serfs with no future other than as cleaners in London bank Foyers.

Stay in, its the 21st century.

Posted 25 May 2016
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Mr_Catz
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Mr_Catz

There are not just discontent people here in the UK about the EU -
 
 
 
 
I'm merely pointing out that there is a growing unrest amongst other EU countries.
 
When people feel as if they are not being listened to, they often turn to more extreme parties to get their message across.
Posted 25 May 2016
RedChecker
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RedChecker
Ladiesman

There are not just discontent people here in the UK about the EU -
 
 
 
 
I'm merely pointing out that there is a growing unrest amongst other EU countries.
 
When people feel as if they are not being listened to, they often turn to more extreme parties to get their message across.


Apparently the EU are already looking into banning such parties that go against EU ethics. 

Sounds like a dictatorship in itself to me, and afterall the EU was Hitler's dream (Fourth Reich) and I suspect it won't be long before it's fully realised and no national identity will remain and like sheep we seem to be sleepwalking into it (which is why I look forward to far-right parties across Europe ripping it all apart).
Posted 25 May 2016
redbaron
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redbaron
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Well, for the jingoistic elderly folk and simpletons who want out - it would be painful,to hear that it was a dream of Churchill himself to form an alliance with Europe and UK lawyers and judges who drew up the framework. You can vote out of the EU, but will still be bound by European law. Luckily, European law is considerably more reasonable for the average person, and accepts at the outset that we are citizens rather than subjects of the crown (you remember, nice german/greek family with a divine right to be better than you?) The Tories are doing all they can to pull off a bluff here, both sides of the argument want us firmly in their control as snivelling mud grubbing serfs with no future other than as cleaners in London bank Foyers. Stay in, its the 21st century.


Here we go all the tired pathetic cliches wheeled out for anyone daring to challenge the EU construct. We may be living  in the 21st century but the EU is firmly stuck in the seventies bessoted with failed socialist notions based round control of every aspect of peoples lives. It has had its day. In the eighties and perhaps nineties there was a constructive case to be made for the EU and the balance in fairness was probably in its favour. Now the fact that the remain camp can only resort to fear intimidation and brazen lies to get people to vote their way say all there needs to be said about how the whole enterprise has all but collapsed under the weight of its own inner contradictions.

No doubt there will be some short term hysteria similar to when we dropped out of the ERM but it will be just that. A few speculators getting burned fingers. Papers filled with doomsayers preparing for the apocalyps. Then after a few weeks when the sky has failed to fall and people twig that life goes on exactly as before for at least a couple of years we will return to non news about celebrities daring to want a private life.

The remainers keep carping on about the dreadful unknowns that faces this country should we dare to stray from clinging safely to the EU's petticote. Well guess what. Great Britian is a trading nation. Our entire history is about striding out into the unknown just to find out what is there. The unkown is where this country is at its best. Far from feeling cowed by that thought I find it thrilling. Lets remember that this is the 5th biggest economy in the world. Many economist expect us to be the 4th biggest in a few years. We are not the enfeebled shell of past glories that some pathetic remainers try to paint this country as. The EU needs us far more than we need them.
Posted 25 May 2016
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loudandflashy
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profilepictures
You're hilarious! Like a mini Boris. Say more funny stuff about this great nation!

Posted 25 May 2016
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