Would you say something?

Would you say something?

33 posts
14 May 2015

Ok - heres the backstory..

A person was found to have a portfolio half of which were nicked images - all landscapes but the person/photographer put their own watermark over them and edited them (all local landscapes by local photographers). When confronted by the original photographers the person/photographer didn't seem to understand why there was an issue, their attitude was very much a "well I'm a student/still learning... screw all of you".

The person isn't a niave 18 year old, they are well into their 40's and claimed to have experience in photography. This was a couple of years ago.

Now heres the question, this person seems to have infiltrated a small social circle I am in with other local creatives and I struggle to speak to them, Infact if It was up to me this person wouldn't be at all welcome - A theif with no regret after being exposed is not somebody I want to associate with. I don't know if I can hold my tongue if they attempt to try and start a conversation up with me.

Would you be able to keep your mouth shut if you were in a room with somebody who stole other photographers images and acted like a dick when found out?

A few of the other people are able to speak to this person with the knowledge of what they have done.. Am I being too harsh? 



Posted 14 May 2015
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
I would say something to others in the group and if they didn't want to know, it would also change my view of the group itself

Posted 14 May 2015
cgwebster
Photographer
cgwebster
Just ask him casually "so, [insert name], are you using your own images these days?" - That should break the ice
Posted 14 May 2015
haha CG thats the type of thing I would say..

"Ohh your that photographer who nicked peoples images a few years ago yeah?" It's just waiting for her to say "Hi I'm so and so" so that I get the opportunity to come out with it..




Posted 14 May 2015
PaulManuell
Photographer
PaulManuell
Chrissie_Red
just waiting for her to say.
Ah, had the feeling the photographer was female because of the way you referred to her as the person, them, their etc. in your op. I'm guessing if it was a male photographer you'd have referred to him as he, him etc. as most photographers are male, so therefore less identifiable if talking about one in reference to a particular incident, such as the one you describe. But to answer the question of this thread, yes, I think I'd be inclined to say something along the lines you mention if/when the opportunity arose.
Posted 15 May 2015
Edited by PaulManuell 14 May 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
I would
Posted 15 May 2015
StNeots
Photographer
StNeots
I'd ask if they had achieved red list status from FIAP yet.  Such photographers are banned from any FIAP or PAGB sponsored competitions.

Posted 15 May 2015
oscar
Photographer
oscar
cgwebster

Just ask him casually "so, [insert name], are you using your own images these days?" - That should break the ice


When with several of the group just say to her ' I was admiring an image in your portfolio and noticed that 'photographer' had a copy in their portfolio. See what answer is given.


Posted 15 May 2015
ChrisD
Photographer
ChrisD
Chrissie_Red

Ok - heres the backstory..

A person was found to have a portfolio half of which were nicked images - all landscapes but the person/photographer put their own watermark over them and edited them (all local landscapes by local photographers). When confronted by the original photographers the person/photographer didn't seem to understand why there was an issue, their attitude was very much a "well I'm a student/still learning... screw all of you".

The person isn't a niave 18 year old, they are well into their 40's and claimed to have experience in photography. This was a couple of years ago.

Now heres the question, this person seems to have infiltrated a small social circle I am in with other local creatives and I struggle to speak to them, Infact if It was up to me this person wouldn't be at all welcome - A theif with no regret after being exposed is not somebody I want to associate with. I don't know if I can hold my tongue if they attempt to try and start a conversation up with me.

Would you be able to keep your mouth shut if you were in a room with somebody who stole other photographers images and acted like a dick when found out?

A few of the other people are able to speak to this person with the knowledge of what they have done.. Am I being too harsh? 





Based on what you state this clearly is a breach of UK copyright law. No photographer worth their salt would behave like this and if they claimed to have experience in photography then that says a lot about them and their attitude in general as a photographer, moreover how little respect they have for fellow photographers and their copyrighted work.

As for your question "Would you be able to keep your mouth shut if you were in a room with somebody who stole other photographers images and acted like a dick when found out?"  .... No I would not remain silent.

In my opinion you are not being too harsh.
Posted 15 May 2015
Edited by ChrisD 15 May 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
StNeots

I'd ask if they had achieved red list status from FIAP yet.  Such photographers are banned from any FIAP or PAGB sponsored competitions.


That's assuming they even enter competitions.  I don't see the point in them personally.
Posted 15 May 2015
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Well you could take the other approach ..... maybe they have learnt the error of their "mistake"... Do they have a profile at present which you could verify as being "own work"? well its Friday and Im feeling the sun, so maybe you could cut them some slack.......
Posted 15 May 2015
EllessePhotography
Photographer
EllessePhotography
I would have a quiet word with others in the group first to see if they are aware of their past. As to your original question, yes, I would say something, even if others are present.

Posted 15 May 2015
Rawandthecooked
Photographer
Rawandthecooked
Hell yes, I don't care if the person is male, female or transgender !Passing someone else's work off as your own is just about the worst crime anyone can commit,photographically speaking! Not onl! would I do it, I would be proud to do so! A so called friend once asked to borrow some of my wedding pics. as he was just starting out, as much as I appreciate it's tough starting in any field, suffice to say, the guy is no longer my friend!

Posted 15 May 2015
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
It depends on whether or not I thought they'd moved on from their past misdemeanours - and how they interacted with me. Everyone makes mistakes and ramming it down their throats isn't necessarily the right approach IMO.

Posted 15 May 2015
LaurenceJPower
Photographer
LaurenceJPower
See if you can introduce one of the photographers who's images were stolen into the group, then make sure they know that this is the individual who stole their images, you could even introduce them " xxx I'd like you to meet yyy, you may remember them, he/she was using you images in their portfolio". all you have to do then is stand back and watch
Posted 15 May 2015
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