Whatever Happened to 'Me'?

Whatever Happened to 'Me'?

17 posts
28 March 2015
carlosw
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carlosw
Is anyone else out there fed up with the rise and rise of !myself! As a substitute for !me! And now increasingly for 'I'? 'Myself' really does have a very limited use as an emphasis ie in "I, myself, will vouch for him. I know it's not easy to decide between when to use 'I' or 'me' but using 'myself' is not the answer as its wrong on both counts! If in doubt try removing the other person when trying to decide. So in 'Johnny and myself are going to town' remove Johnny and try I or me instead of myself and see what works. In this case it is 'I' - I am going to town. Or without Johnny and myself nothing would get done. In this case 'me' - Without me nothing would get done.

And before any other pedants out there use the argument that 'language is always evolving', I understand that but living through the the period of transition when morons rule, really is hell!

Phew!

Posted 28 March 2015
SandyCamel
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SandyCamel

Times change, as you say.

I recall that some people from the 2nd World War era could not come to terms with the way in which people behaved during the sixties and seventies, having fought for their freedom.

In the film 'The Limey', to quote - 'When you were there, though, you knew the language. You knew your way around. That was the sixties'.

Like Diana Ross and The Supremes sang - 'You've got to make way for the young folks'

I suppose William Shakespeare would have something to say about the change in the English language too.

It's just inevitable - and a matter of trying to keep up lol !






Posted 28 March 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
There's a difference, though, between the English language changing/evolving and bad grammar. Misusing 'myself' is bad grammar. An unfortunate example of the language evolving is the word 'innit', though I was always under the obviously mistaken impression that evolution is supposedly an improvement on what went before.

Posted 29 March 2015
profilepictures
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It's indicative of the demographic here that this thread even exists; if not the demographic then the subset of narky curmudgeons who occasionally haunt the space. A thread like this would get ripped up for arse paper in most other fora.

Posted 29 March 2015
EdT
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EdT
I remember the good old days when people used quotation marks rather than exclamation marks.

Posted 29 March 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
profilepictures
It's indicative of the demographic here that this thread even exists; if not the demographic then the subset of narky curmudgeons who occasionally haunt the space.
Spoken like the narky curmudgeon you are.
Posted 29 March 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
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A thread like this would get ripped up for arse paper in most other fora.
No it wouldn't. I've read similar threads on other forums, and far from being ripped up for arse paper they actually make for interesting discussion.
Posted 29 March 2015
carlosw
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carlosw
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It's indicative of the demographic here that this thread even exists; if not the demographic then the subset of narky curmudgeons who occasionally haunt the space. A thread like this would get ripped up for arse paper in most other fora.
...........are they fora or forums?
Posted 30 March 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
carlosw
...........are they fora or forums?
They're both correct, but forums is the version most used in modern English, fora is just a bit pretentious.
Posted 30 March 2015
Nick_Edinburgh
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Actually I've a feeling fora and forums mean slightly different things... PS and PP both host forums. Whilst online discussion boards and pubs are both fora. Or is it the other way around? Something like that.

Posted 30 March 2015
Jackass
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Jackass
PaulManuell
They're both correct, but forums is the version most used in modern English, fora is just a bit pretentious.
Posted 30 March 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
Nick_Edinburgh
Actually I've a feeling fora and forums mean slightly different things... PS and PP both host forums. Whilst online discussion boards and pubs are both fora. Or is it the other way around? Something like that.
You're sort of correct. Dusting off my dictionary, it gives forums as the plural of forum, a meeting or medium for an exchange of views. I'm taking Purestorm's forum to be an example of 'medium' in this instance. The dictionary then goes on to describe fora (under the 'forum' description) as (in ancient Roman cities) a public square or marketplace used for judicial or other business. However, just to muddle things a bit, looking at the description of fora in its own right, the dictionary has it as the plural of forum, but in parenthesis says in sense 3. What sense 3 is, though, I haven't a clue. So there you are, it's as clear as mud.
Posted 30 March 2015
Edited by PaulManuell 30 March 2015
mph
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mph
EdT

I remember the good old days when people used quotation marks rather than exclamation marks.



smiley
Posted 1 April 2015
PaulManuell
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PaulManuell
EdT
I remember the good old days when people used quotation marks rather than exclamation marks.
"!"
Posted 2 April 2015
OldMaster
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OldMaster
Grammar and language do evolve of course as does slang and local dialect? Not sure any of it matters as long as folk are able to communicate what they mean?

Posted 11 April 2015
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