IceLight Mk2.. The Ambient strikes back..

IceLight Mk2.. The Ambient strikes back..

16 posts
3 March 2015
paule
Photographer
paule
Westcott just about to launch their updated Icelight... 

1740lumen.. 50% more powerful 
digital readout.. 
removable battery (big plus imho)

http://www.fjwestcott.com/led-lighting/ice-light/ice-light-2



Posted 3 March 2015
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
It's a nice piece of kit, snag is the price, especially in UK , as always! The Mk1 is close to £400. There are, more reasonable priced 'clones', one of which already has a removable battery.
I've used a couple of £9.99 work lights from Clas Ohlson and they aren't bad!

Posted 3 March 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
magpie1

It's a nice piece of kit, snag is the price, especially in UK , as always! The Mk1 is close to £400. There are, more reasonable priced 'clones', one of which already has a removable battery. I've used a couple of £9.99 work lights from Clas Ohlson and they aren't bad!


I'd like to think Westcott had done their homework on the CRI of the LEDs as well as colour balance though for that price.  I'd suspect many clones & DIY ones will have dreadful CRI and colour balance (I may get one of Sekonic's new colour meters eventually and will be able to test this) and as always it may well be that you get what you pay for.
Posted 3 March 2015
Edited by RedChecker 3 March 2015
Allinthemind
Photographer
Allinthemind
not really "ambient".... I think these things are way too expensive although they can have their uses. As Red says, the CRI is key, I have an LED video light that is much brighter at about the same price.
Posted 3 March 2015
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
Has anyone tried the DIY ice lights made from led torches and white PVC pipe?

Posted 3 March 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Just had a gander on 'tinterwebs and it seems good LED torches have a CRI of ~75%, the IceLight has a CRI of over 90%

Many car maintenance torches & the like that may seem a suitable cheap alternative probably have worse CRI than the 'good' torches (like Maglight & LED Lenser). Apparently lights with higher colour temperature are likely to have a lower CRI, and certainly my cheapie LED inspection lamp is very blue.


Posted 4 March 2015
paule
Photographer
paule
surely if the Sith are the Dark side... the Jedi are at least ambient agree they are an expensive bit of kit... though compact and give a very nice light.. as with most things it's just a tool and all about how creative you can be with it..
Posted 4 March 2015
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
paule
surely if the Sith are the Dark side... the Jedi are at least ambient agree they are an expensive bit of kit... though compact and give a very nice light.. as with most things it's just a tool and all about how creative you can be with it..
It appears they're not that powerful and you can achieve the same result for much less money. Very expensive for what it does.
Posted 5 March 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
HowardJ

Very expensive for what it does.


Ever used/handled one Howard?

They're VERY well made, and as I said earlier... it has a high CRI (which will not come cheaply) which is important for people who care about getting the best image quality possible.  Bear in mind it's also properly made to certain international safety standards (unlike most Chinese stuff), not that most people give a monkeys but it's another reason it's pricey.  Also note that it has very soft light by way of some sort of diffusor, this is probably knocking a stop or two out of the brightness compared to (say) a torch/worklight (which are too harsh to be used directly)

Expensive, yes.  Rip off, no (as you're getting what you're paying for).

It'll appeal to many who use fast primes at high ISO on location (I've toyed with the idea of getting one, with a removeable battery it's much more attractive)
Posted 5 March 2015
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
RedChecker
Ever used/handled one Howard? They're VERY well made, and as I said earlier... it has a high CRI (which will not come cheaply) which is important for people who care about getting the best image quality possible.  Bear in mind it's also properly made to certain international safety standards (unlike most Chinese stuff), not that most people give a monkeys but it's another reason it's pricey.  Also note that it has very soft light by way of some sort of diffusor, this is probably knocking a stop or two out of the brightness compared to (say) a torch/worklight (which are too harsh to be used directly) Expensive, yes.  Rip off, no (as you're getting what you're paying for). It'll appeal to many who use fast primes at high ISO on location (I've toyed with the idea of getting one, with a removeable battery it's much more attractive)
Nope, but I've watched the videos and they have to be held very close. A modelling lamp or a continuous light like a Lupolex is about the same price and is more flexible for use in different situations. They could be amazingly well made, but there's still cheaper options out there as is backed up by various reviews I've read. By all means buy one and have fun with it. BTW various companies are clearing stock of the old one with bigish reductions in price.
Posted 5 March 2015
Edited by HowardJ 5 March 2015
paule
Photographer
paule
I've got a MK1.. and do like it, yes you have to be fairly close though the light it produces is very nice..

each to their own..

I did think the prices would drop to move old stock.. I would definitely wait for the MkII, if I was looking for a second light..

Posted 5 March 2015
Photoimager
Photographer
Photoimager
I might be biased about this. Expensive - yes Cheaper now than when I purchased one. Full length key light - forget it Accent light or quick soft lighting with quick fall-off - it is very seductive lighting. Quality compared to 'torches' - no comparison.
Posted 5 March 2015
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
Photoimager
I might be biased about this. Expensive - yes Cheaper now than when I purchased one. Full length key light - forget it Accent light or quick soft lighting with quick fall-off - it is very seductive lighting. Quality compared to 'torches' - no comparison.
Yep, but you pretty much need an assistant on any shoot that uses it as that seems to be the only way to get it close enough. The new one might be better if its more powerful but you'll need to stick it on a stand and bugger about a bit to get it positioned well enough.
Posted 5 March 2015
dunstaffnage
Photographer
dunstaffnage
I have 2, found my canon flash units too fiddly and wanted something portable.
Love them. The barn doors and gels are also helpful. Price for the original has dropped a bit but they are expensive.

Posted 6 March 2015
dhuntuk
Photographer
dhuntuk
CRI: In case, like me, you do not know what they are jabbering about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_index
Posted 19 March 2015
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