does anyone have any opinions on the sony a6000 as a walkabout camera
for street photography and portraits ?
no good telling me that a fuji xyz is better though, as i dont have the option
of buying a fuji just a very good deal from an acquaintance on a sony a6000
that will probably be a once in lifetime kinda deal.
so, i buy or not tomorrow morning. i will be interested to hear your opinions please !
(and will be busily looking up the review sites tonight)
wow, the more i'm using the a6000 the more i'm AMAZED at the speed it does the important
stuff, compared to what appears to be old dated canon tech (and that's my 5d mk2).
its so customisable that im dizzy with all the options, but thankfully there are 3
memories that can be used, so i've spent my time setting up for a b+w shoot i'm going
to do soon, so that when the inevitable happens and i adjust something in error, i can
get back to the preferred settings easily.
some of the fab things ive found:
*the standard zoom lens isnt as bad as i'd been led to believe. its making quite acceptable
10x8 prints when using the "standard" colour option.
*i'm finding that i like the colour rendition of the camera/lens combo.
*wifi is simply a great thing, its allowed cheap (free) remote control.
*downloading apps onto the camera - it now has a time lapse ability at a cost of £8
but more importantly done in it's software, so no more specialised remote controls.
*small / light
i'm totally wrapped up in the hype of the a6000 at the moment. no doubt another
week will see me finding things i really dont like, but as yet, its been difficult
to go that route. i have the 50mm (equates to a 75mm) and have taken some
lovely shots using auto hdr mode on the camera.
so far so good.
redchecker: ive ordered off the interwhizz an adapter that goes e-fit to ef.
reports say it retains autofocus etc but its slowed down from the hyper fast native lenses.
we shall see.... i will report back on the adapter in a few weeks time, and how the
canon lenses work with the a6000 body.
at the moment if i were a professional, i'd also be thinking of smaller lighter
kit... its the one thing that persuaded me a canon 100d body was good for me, which it was.
downside: the a6000 must get a touchscreen. ive found myself touching the screen
to change the focus point - although i'm still a fan of the half-press and recompose
method, being able to touch a screen to refocus is quick and easy in 99% of the shots i take,
i.e. not in direct blistering sunlight where screens are difficult to see...
apologies for accidentally deleting my last post. i shouted out loud "buggerit" but
didnt find a way of undeleting
all the best, a happy a6000 bunny
i simply love the quality of the output in such a small package. pocketable with the kit lens, which is not the awful performer i was led to believe it would be.
what i have found that totally rocked me (but i should have remembered reading about it a long time ago) is the sony flash hotshoe. its not a standard iso hotshoe so does not take any of my speedlights or triggers. an adapter has been ordered off the interweb which i hope to have delivered on thursday. excited to see if the £10 investment works !
so far i've set up all three memory profiles on the camera. memory 1: b+w memory 2: colour memory 3: flash shutter priority
the sony-to-canon adapter is wending its way out to me right now, so i hope to report on that later. i am expecting very much slower autofocus speed, but the ability to use the 70-200 2.8 or 4 will make this an outstanding piece of kit and dirt-cheap for the results i'm getting as no further expense on sony lenses as i now have all the canon lenses that i can foresee will be needed for years to come...
i often have to check the camera is in the bag (it is) due to the weight difference. batteries drain fast, so i'm now working with a 2-piece mains charger and plan on a shoot with 4 or 6 batteries on board.
i wish the rear screen was fully rotatable like the canon G-series, but i'm getting used to the idea of it being fixed in landscape orientation.
i thought its about time to update this thread. i know a lot of people will be reading it but
probably not commenting, so i deem it worth while to do.
the a6000 (ilce-6000) is a good piece of kit for my kind of photography.
the one bugbear is the multi interface adapter shoe, which isnt a standard hot shoe.
i have got around that difficulty by simply using a nissin i40 flash to trigger my
studio flash. if i were working outside i'd definitely need a 2.4GHz radio trigger, and
would need to research that more...
so far so good. all the kit i need to tote around fits in a small bag that i call my "man bag"
which carries my wallet and phone and specs too.
i have shot my first studio shoot with it, and i am very impressed with its light weight handleability.
for shots in raw i use adobes dng converter, and work in photoshop elements 11, or chose the jpg to work with.
i have sprung for a couple of additional lenses, one of which is the general purpose video-friendly
18-105 f4 G lens. i tested for the sweet spot so am generally found shooting at about f6.7 to f8 with
that lens, but it has auto-correction software in-camera so as a combination of camera and lens
there is a synergy that happens and photographs come out looking fairly nice.
compared to the canon's offering of colour balance, i find that i'm working with the sony a lot
faster post processing wise. the reds are well controlled compared to canon, and i find myself
far far happier with skin tones directly out of the camera.
my adapter arrived so i can now use all my canon lenses on the a6k body, and boy does that work !
i can chose my 70-200 f2.8 if i feel that way inclined, or the 70-200 f4 if im out and about, plus
all the other nice canon L glass. i dont think the autofocus on the a6k body is anything to shout
about when married with canon glass. its slow and ponderous (not phase but contrast detection) and is
good for portraits and landscape but definitely not sporty shooting. ive learned how to manual focus
again with focus peeking working very well. with that auto-zoomy focus checker device switched on,
critical focus can be had easily. dont get me wrong, i'd much prefer autofocus, but to avoid spending
another few £k, i'm happy to manual focus. f2.8 e-mount lenses are coming to market soon, so much
of what's required will be covered, but at a sony cost. i'm not sure that is worth the extra money,
as the results i'm getting from sensible use of the kit lenses is good enough for my purposes.
dare i say zeiss glass ? i have been tempted, but i'm avoiding getting onto that bandwagon
when taking into account the canon glass i have at my disposal already.
battery life is dire when using pre-focus and using the rear screen in a "live view" kind of setup.
apparently the evf uses a lot less juice, and i've found that to be hugely advantageous in low light
and bright sunlight; bright light always makes my camera and cell phone a headache to use. chimping
has to be done when hunched over the camera shielding it away from the rays
yesterday i shot all the colour shots on the sony a6000, and all the b+w shots on the 5d2.
i'm beginning to move away from the large bulky kit. next time i go abroad for a holiday all my
canon kit stays at home with the exception of a lens or two. such is my confidence in the sony.
but, like always, i like to take at least 2 backup batteries, and a charger that i can use in mains
or off the car's 12v supply.
the temptation to spend ££££'s on the latest sony offerings is huge, but i'm not allowing
myself to get caught up in the hype. if pro wedding photographers can use the a6k to get
professional looking results, and they do, then i'm cool with it (for my style of photographs).
dear mr sony: please get rid of that rediculous multi interface shoe, and give us an industry
standard that so many things will fit on. please !
11 fps isnt such a bad thing either. sounds like a pro that knows what he's doing LOL or as kai would
say, sexy !
the software downloads that are available for timelapse, and shutter release by putting a hand over
the evf sensor, and loads of other things are available at cheap prices, downloadable from the sony site,
and my anger of upgrades being charged for was wrong. i gave up on one piece of software and was prepared
to purchase it again, but got all the way through to the payments page when it said i didnt need to pay.
hmmmm. i wish that was made clear earlier on as lots of foul mouthed words would not have been spewed out.
i guess there's a maximum number of downloads for free, or something like that? i still dont know.
low light performance of the a6k isnt as good as i'd expected it to be. the results (subjectively) appear
a little grainy when i start to hike the iso over 1600, but that's on a apsc sensor, so i dont want to be
overly critical. colours are superb in daylight flash overcast and sunny situations.
there are almost too many options to dial in in the menus, but 3 camera profiles can be stored in memory,
and for me thats enough.
phew. am i pleased with my purchase? yes. could it be better? yes.
will i be selling it ? no.
hope this helps someone. its a very practical honest opinion of my own, and isnt
influenced by hype excitement and bs that can be read or watched on the internet.
all the best
now that sony have released some ground breaking cameras such as the a7r2 i think canon and nikon
are going to be pressed into speeding up their releases to keep market share. its not an uncommon opinion,
and i'm sure many of you here will NOT share it with sony users
Interesting review Alex, and if any manufacturer might persuade me, it'd be sony. I'd still want a conventional dslr body I think and certainly the ISO capability I've seen on a friends ( in video work only at this stage) is excellent. The hot shoe thing is a pain, I can't imagine why they much about with that still other than to sell their own flash units- which seems counterproductive if they want to steal market share. The limiting ISO 1600 here is the other concern for me with your model as I simply wouldn't get a large proportion of the shots I need at that point.
And, yes, it confuses me that so few here share kit reviews. It's a natural interest for photographers and certainly last time I mentioned something new and utterly useful, it was largely ignored. Having said that, many are happy to shoot crap with crap I think!
Having bought a A6000 in Febuary , first thing I bought was another battery and then a OM adaptor because I had Olympus lenses.I also bought a Thumbs Up , which placed in the hot shoes gives the camera a perfect balance. I find the learning curve very high. I,ve just bought a 18-105 lense which I took on a shoot today and viewing the images they look very sharp
Thing that can be improved a bigger hand grip, a proper motordrive and a better to understand menu.
hi jonathons, well our paths are very similar.
i also have an 18-105 which is on the camera pretty much full time.
i also use the 55-210 which is a really decent performer when in its sweet spot.
the camera came with a 50/1.8 which i use for portraits mainly.
i am restricting my use of iso up to 1600 (sometimes 3200) to keep the noise
levels acceptable to my eye.
a battery grip (cheper 3rd party) is made for it, but ive not felt
the need for it - especially as it needs an external cable to fit between the
vertical grip and the camera's usb port.
motordrive? it does 11 fps native. i'm confused why you want a "proper" motordrive ?
i'm having HUGE fun with this camera and lens system as its so small and pocketable
that i no longer have to hire a taxi to follow me with my kit if i truly want pocketable
(albeit for a large pocket) then i switch to the kit zoom, which is quite good around its sweet
spot of about f6.7 or f8.
having a tiny flash for fill in work is lovely too. i got used to using the canon 5d2 with no
built in flash
i agree about the menu. its not so intuitive, but once learned it becomes easy.
from the thumbwheel we can access:
we have preset memories x 3 under the memory function
and programmable buttons to keep us busy for years !
i've recently added the nissin i40 which is helping to trigger my
studio strobes and also to do some bouncy flash shots, and fill in too.
i purchased a cheap adapter so i can use the canon lenses on the a6000, so my L glass
is all useable in slow autofocus or manual focus.
i'm pretty sure that an iteration of the camera will combine both contrast and phase
autofocus and will allow the canon glass to operate as fast as when on its native body.
all in all i'm pleased. noise levels are proving to be noticeable at 3200 and above,
which hasnt proved a huge problem yet. i'm limiting myself to lower iso's which in the
days of film i used to keep down to 400 asa, so i'm not sure exactly what i'm griping about LOL...
i just read of a nikon man ditching his kit to use the a6000 professinally
and earlier today a canon 5d2 user has just told me he's selling his canon ff
and moving over to the sony a6000. amazing.
this camera has brought back the fun in funtography for me.
i plan to keep the canon 100d body and all the lenses,
the 5d2 body may be swapped for a zeiss lens or one of the new f2.8
sony lenses about to be released
neil (profilepictures) ,
one thing i didnt mention is the evf. it took me a good while to get used to it.
at first i thought that i couldn't press the shutter release even though i'd got tone
and the green light - it looked out of focus and weird.
so, i adjusted the diopter setting trusting the focus *was* good, and then noticed
that the screen is ok but not good. i've begun to trust in the READOUT rather than
the optical evidence in the viewfinder, and yes, my trust has been well placed. i'm getting
far more (focus) keepers using the sony than i ever have done with the 5d2, which is known
for being a little wayward in that respect
i'm sorry to say that i really do think that 1600 or 3200 is an acceptable iso limit for me.
others may have differing opinions. i guess if one shoots at max resolution of what is it, 22m ?,
then displaying the photograph on the average pc at home will be fine. printing at full size may
be a letdown, i just dont know, i dont do huge roadside posters.
the promise of some f2.8 glass coming for the e-mount is welcomed; in my case more for the
quality of the glass rather than the need for bokeh that hugely separates the subject or
for photographing coal in a dark coal cellar.
speaking as a confirmed canon user i tried very hard to ignore the sony products,
but, in the end, they have won the day and the battle is over.
with the a6000 put it into decent light and it comes alive in one's hands and makes
photographs suitable for most and at a size/weight ratio that would astound most 1ds mk4 users
its not inherently waterproof, battery life is in the high 300's, and lenses are
not as ranging in the sony offerings. having said that what do i carry with me all day long?
why the a6000 of course (plus a couple of lenses in my "man bag").
yes i'd like to hear/see more kit comparisons by people that use the kit,
not the pure laboratory people, although they play an important part to the whole story.
vive le revolution !