North West - Studios without CCTV?

North West - Studios without CCTV?

13 posts
18 Jan 2015
SkyHorse
Photographer
SkyHorse

Hi,
I am looking for a studio in the North West which does not have CCTV in the studio?
This my sound an odd request, however there is a reason why, my work is adult/fetish video work, in which the models face does not appear, so there is no point someone else having a recording of my shoot, in which the model can be clearly identified, which is out of my control.
The ideal of the “non-face” is just in case there employer, boyfriend or future my bring, they know this work, will not come knocking on there door.

Regards
James


Posted 18 Jan 2015
MarkLondon
Photographer
MarkLondon
Why not just ask the studio to switch off the CCTV whilst you are shooting and you can also temporarily cover any cameras with a pillow case in any areas you are shooting just to be sure

Posted 19 Jan 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Or why not work with models who do 'adult' on a daily basis and don't have employer/boyfriend issues? (trust me, it's far easier)

Even if a studio had CCTV pointing into the shooting space I'd be very surprised if the quality is good enough that faces are identifiable (in terms of resolution, framerate and camera angle) and furthermore would be devastating to a studio's reputation should said footage go public (I believe it would be a criminal offence anyway if a business did this with said footage).

Considering how much stuff either gets stolen from or damaged in studios it's understandable why they may have some form of CCTV though, not to mention the potential in the modelling world for accusations of improper behaviour. I can't believe it would be for unsavoury reasons (again, as the quality would be so bad, camera angles would be wrong etc.), and if they were so-inclined the camera would more likely be hidden in toilets or changing rooms.

Posted 19 Jan 2015
vipimages
Photographer
vipimages
www.vipstudios.co.uk
Posted 19 Jan 2015
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
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Posted 19 Jan 2015
SkyHorse
Photographer
SkyHorse
The shoots always follow the same format:

(1) Location & Pictures in the car!

(2) Then for the next shoot, the models says we can shoot at hers, I look at this as a free studio.

I asked one why, I do not wish for anyone to know what I am up to.



Posted 19 Jan 2015
Chandos
Photographer
Chandos
I might be naive but I just take it that studios don't have CCTV by default and should say so if they have. What do models think?

BTW not all CCTV cameras are bad quality, some are pretty good.

Posted 20 Jan 2015
Edited by Chandos 20 Jan 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Chandos

BTW not all CCTV cameras are bad quality, some are pretty good.


I wasn't implying they were bad per se (I know how good they can get as I'm looking at getting a 5 megapixel one for my house although I've seen a few going up to 11 megapixel), but that for the positioning of them in the studio and the fact it'll be unlikely they'll be focussed directly on the shooting area etc. that the model/photographer will simply be a small part of the recorded video scene rather than a subject that fills it, hence my implying that the quality won't be ideal as it would most likely require heavy cropping etc.
Posted 20 Jan 2015
MarkLondon
Photographer
MarkLondon
I cant believe that most studios would not have some sort of CCTV setup, if just for insurance purposes

Personally I don't mind it if a studio has CCTV, it can help prove/disprove claims of theft, inappropriate behaviour, running late, etc.

If you need to shoot totally privately then a hotel room may be another option to consider

Posted 20 Jan 2015
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

Unfortunately there have been a few incidences of concealed CCTV being used in studios used by models and photographers here. Needless to say the reputation of the studios and those involved in running them suffered as a result.

If CCTV is in operation then this should be noted in the studio's profile and in any advertising. Signage should also be in place on the premises. Some people will be fine with it whereas others will prefer to go elsewhere - photographers should always check with their models first rather than simply assume they'll be OK with it. The important thing is that it's drawn to people's attention BEFORE a studio accepts a booking.
Posted 20 Jan 2015
Edited by marlhamphoto 20 Jan 2015
Chandos
Photographer
Chandos
RedChecker
but that for the positioning of them in the studio and the fact it'll be unlikely they'll be focussed directly on the shooting area etc. that the model/photographer will simply be a small part of the recorded video scene rather than a subject that fills it, hence my implying that the quality won't be ideal as it would most likely require heavy cropping etc.
I don't know what your 'fact" is. Is there a law requiring how studios place their CCTV?
Posted 20 Jan 2015
marlhamphoto
Photographer
marlhamphoto
Chandos

I don't know what your 'fact" is. Is there a law requiring how studios place their CCTV?


Not so much that but how the camera is 'focused' is likely to determine whether the device is a genuine security camera or some pervert's attempt to operate a sneaky spy cam.
Posted 20 Jan 2015
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Chandos

I don't know what your 'fact" is. Is there a law requiring how studios place their CCTV?


****'s sake, the 'fact' as you highlight was referring to the assumption that if the camera is placed high on a wall or on the ceiling at one end of the studio it will be (as marlhamphoto suggests) unlikely to be zoomed/focussed directly on the shoot itself and would capture a wide-angle shot of the studio as a whole (the implication being that anyone working in the studio would simply be part of the scene as a whole unlike the images the photographer is getting of the model which will be zoomed-in and focussed on the model).  It's really not that ****ing hard to understand is it?
Posted 21 Jan 2015
Edited by RedChecker 21 Jan 2015
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