I can't believe this is still happening in this day and age

I can't believe this is still happening in this day and age

16 posts
8 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
I am currently looking to get a room to rent, but am being held up by excuses from landlords, ranging from age, gender and what job I have (as in, they don't like the shifts I work).

I am currently, according to my specifics, male (no intention of changing that) between a certain age where discrimination in the job used to be "acceptable", and my current job has shifts, so one day I will be working early to early, or afternoon to late, though not nights.

Posted 8 Oct 2014
Amber6
Model
Amber6
Why on earth are they bothered about shift work? Are they live-in landlords (hence, they would personally be disrupted by this)? A huge portion of the population do not do 9-5 work. In this day an age I would think they would just be happy to have a tenant who is gainfully employed!
Do you have good previous references from landlords?

Try spareroom.co.uk - you can even (for £12 a month I believe) advertise who you are and what you are looking for, so that way the people who contact you, are already okay with the basics. I've used it twice with great success, as have my friends. There is also a huge age range on there from 18 year olds to 70 year olds.

Posted 9 Oct 2014
Try being on housing benefit, then you'll really know pain.

Posted 9 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
Amber6
Why on earth are they bothered about shift work? Are they live-in landlords (hence, they would personally be disrupted by this)? A huge portion of the population do not do 9-5 work. In this day an age I would think they would just be happy to have a tenant who is gainfully employed! Do you have good previous references from landlords? Try spareroom.co.uk - you can even (for £12 a month I believe) advertise who you are and what you are looking for, so that way the people who contact you, are already okay with the basics. I've used it twice with great success, as have my friends. There is also a huge age range on there from 18 year olds to 70 year olds.
Tried spareroom they seem to want to encourage this discrimination saying "it's in compliant with UK laws" I have no other choice to do shift work, because I tried for 4 years to get a job without success
Posted 9 Oct 2014
Sdeve
Photographer
Sdeve
I would like some fill in on details here. Are the grounds you state the only thing of issue? How old are you? If I was wanting to rent out a room there are many things that I would consider, age of the person being but one of them. Remember, if there's a falling out they can be damned difficult to get rid of. A 20 year old bank clerk, or police officer, might be on one end of the scale, a heavily tattooed punk with a bone through his nose and his own drum kit might be on the other. My room, possibly my home, and I would reserve the right to be a bit picky about who I have to see there every day.

Posted 9 Oct 2014
digimarx
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digimarx
Sdeve
I would like some fill in on details here. Are the grounds you state the only thing of issue? How old are you? If I was wanting to rent out a room there are many things that I would consider, age of the person being but one of them. Remember, if there's a falling out they can be damned difficult to get rid of. A 20 year old bank clerk, or police officer, might be on one end of the scale, a heavily tattooed punk with a bone through his nose and his own drum kit might be on the other. My room, possibly my home, and I would reserve the right to be a bit picky about who I have to see there every day.
But discrimination is illegal, at least that is what it says on the shelter website, yeah grant you, you have the right to be picky
Posted 10 Oct 2014
redbaron
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redbaron
digimarx

But discrimination is illegal, at least that is what it says on the shelter website, yeah grant you, you have the right to be picky


No. It is illegal in certain situation such as when applying for a job. Read the original post. He is trying to rent a room not a entire flat. The Landlords are quite rightly entitled to seek a new tennant they feel will get on with those already living in the house and are allowed to do so.

I can well see that shift work would be a major problem for a start. Inevitably that will mean him banging around at times others are trying to sleep. Equally the rest of the house may feel their ability to enjoy watching TV or having a few friends round for the evening would be curtailed by the OP wanting to get some sleep. Equally if the house is currently occupied by a number of young females they may not be happy with having him there.



Posted 10 Oct 2014
Edited by redbaron 10 Oct 2014
Amber6
Model
Amber6
Still seems bizarre. A lot of my friends are freelance sound engineers, which means not only do they do shifts, but seriously antisocial shifts (sometimes finishing at 12am-10am!) and I don't recall them ever having problems renting. Sure they may not be suitable for every house share, but no one is. As I said before, there is a huge percentage of the population who don't work 9-5 (I myself, only have ever worked 9-5 two years of my life, and that doesn't count as it was a job in music, where we were expected to be out in the evening as well, socialising). Also, London is quite different than most of the UK, as it's so bloody overpriced, people are still in flatmate situations well into middle age, often So as long as you are perhaps trying to live in a property with people in at a similar stage in life (I can see why you might not be a good fit for say, three 18 year old girls to share with), I don't know how it can be too difficult. Good luck anyway, I hate moving!
Posted 10 Oct 2014
I know its disheartening but look at it from another point - if you were a landlord/in charge of who gets to move in to a flat/house you own then you would probably be picky. When we bought the place we are in now we were still renting a flat so we had to give our landlady notice - our lease wasn't "quite" up but she said if we were able to show potential tenants around then she would accept us moving out as quickly as they moved in (she didn't live in the area so it would be handy for her having us do it). After each viewing we would chat to her about the people who came to see the flat. It was difficult "judging" people, but I knew who she would have preferred an older professional or a couple rather than a bunch of students. The flat was her first property, she put a lot of work into making it a beautiful home and didn't want somebody to come in and cause damage or ruin it in anyway - plus she respected her neighbours enough not to have tenants who liked to party. I imagine when it comes to finding suitable flatmates its even more important to get somebody who is the "right fit" for the other people in the house. Not only for their sake but for your own. Would you want to live with students who's lifestyle is completely different to your own? - probably not.. Up here though its pretty unusual to be in a flatshare situation - unless you are a student or live with a bunch of mates/your parents. Thank god our housing is "affordable" - think you would pay more for a parking spot on the outskirts of London for a year than what my flat cost me overall. Maybe the best thing to do is ask around friends? I don't let out my spare room but if a friend asked me I probably wouldn't say no to the extra income it could generate. Hope you find something soon - don't take the rejection to heart though! Like I said when i was showing potential tenants around the older generation were looked upon much more fondly than the 20's.
Posted 10 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
Chrissie_Red
I know its disheartening but look at it from another point - if you were a landlord/in charge of who gets to move in to a flat/house you own then you would probably be picky. When we bought the place we are in now we were still renting a flat so we had to give our landlady notice - our lease wasn't "quite" up but she said if we were able to show potential tenants around then she would accept us moving out as quickly as they moved in (she didn't live in the area so it would be handy for her having us do it). After each viewing we would chat to her about the people who came to see the flat. It was difficult "judging" people, but I knew who she would have preferred an older professional or a couple rather than a bunch of students. The flat was her first property, she put a lot of work into making it a beautiful home and didn't want somebody to come in and cause damage or ruin it in anyway - plus she respected her neighbours enough not to have tenants who liked to party. I imagine when it comes to finding suitable flatmates its even more important to get somebody who is the "right fit" for the other people in the house. Not only for their sake but for your own. Would you want to live with students who's lifestyle is completely different to your own? - probably not.. Up here though its pretty unusual to be in a flatshare situation - unless you are a student or live with a bunch of mates/your parents. Thank god our housing is "affordable" - think you would pay more for a parking spot on the outskirts of London for a year than what my flat cost me overall. Maybe the best thing to do is ask around friends? I don't let out my spare room but if a friend asked me I probably wouldn't say no to the extra income it could generate. Hope you find something soon - don't take the rejection to heart though! Like I said when i was showing potential tenants around the older generation were looked upon much more fondly than the 20's.
I for one don't mind anyone, including students, I have flatshared with them before, they never got on my nerves, and if they did, it wasn't because of age or gender, it was because they were P*ssed out of their minds, doesn't mean I can't live with them, on the other hand, I got refused a place because the place was for "mature" people from an old person, judging by her voice, so it's like I'm stuck right in the middle at the moment
Posted 10 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
Amber6
Still seems bizarre. A lot of my friends are freelance sound engineers, which means not only do they do shifts, but seriously antisocial shifts (sometimes finishing at 12am-10am!) and I don't recall them ever having problems renting. Sure they may not be suitable for every house share, but no one is. As I said before, there is a huge percentage of the population who don't work 9-5 (I myself, only have ever worked 9-5 two years of my life, and that doesn't count as it was a job in music, where we were expected to be out in the evening as well, socialising). Also, London is quite different than most of the UK, as it's so bloody overpriced, people are still in flatmate situations well into middle age, often So as long as you are perhaps trying to live in a property with people in at a similar stage in life (I can see why you might not be a good fit for say, three 18 year old girls to share with), I don't know how it can be too difficult. Good luck anyway, I hate moving!
It is bizarre, but this is what London seems to have come to, very fussy landlords, knowing that rooms are going very fast
Posted 10 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
I guess the only reason why some male landlords only want females, is.....I think I will leave that to your imagination, lol

Posted 11 Oct 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
digimarx
I guess the only reason why some male landlords only want females, is.....I think I will leave that to your imagination, lol
I think it's actually because girls are generally tidier/cleaner and less likely to trash the place. If you don't understand why people are not offering you rooms that you apply for (and just think it's discrimination) that probably indicates that you have an attitude which isn't going down well with prospective sharers or landlords. Landlords are normally interested in (in order of importance) 1)Whether you can/will pay the rent (ie do you have a secure job), 2)Are you going to trash the place ?, 3)Will you get on with other residents (or will you drive the other tenants away) 4)Will you stay for a reasonable amount of time (getting new tenants costs time and money). If anything about your answers, appearance or attitude is giving the landlord the impression that one of those may be a problem... then he won't rent to you. Working shifts can be a good thing for other occupants if you are always out in the evenings and flatmates are working in the day it can give you all more space/freedom when you are in.
Posted 11 Oct 2014
andrew_gibbins
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andrew_gibbi..
My suggestion is to go to Spareroom.co.uk and get a room where there is no live in landlord. Plenty of those advertised. When doing so, they are less discriminating than the live in landlords, and might prove easier for you to get.

On another note, when I got back to Sheffield, I wanted to rent a room as well, being that I needed someplace cheap while building my economy, getting a job, and so on. I am a near 40 year old Caucasian male, and had no issues getting a room. Took me all but one day, and I did that prior to going back here.

But yeah, I suggest you get a room from a landlord who doesn't live on the premises. That way, it might be easier.

Posted 12 Oct 2014
digimarx
Photographer
digimarx
stolenfaces
I think it's actually because girls are generally tidier/cleaner and less likely to trash the place. If you don't understand why people are not offering you rooms that you apply for (and just think it's discrimination) that probably indicates that you have an attitude which isn't going down well with prospective sharers or landlords. Landlords are normally interested in (in order of importance) 1)Whether you can/will pay the rent (ie do you have a secure job), 2)Are you going to trash the place ?, 3)Will you get on with other residents (or will you drive the other tenants away) 4)Will you stay for a reasonable amount of time (getting new tenants costs time and money). If anything about your answers, appearance or attitude is giving the landlord the impression that one of those may be a problem... then he won't rent to you. Working shifts can be a good thing for other occupants if you are always out in the evenings and flatmates are working in the day it can give you all more space/freedom when you are in.
I have also seen male landlord advertise and I have sent a message to them only for them to say "I am looking just for female.", I've had also a letting agent drop an advert, only to put it up a week later after I had phoned the letting agent who by his name, only beginning with M (I don't think PS will allow me to post personal details on here), only for spareroom to not do anything about it but stick up for the advertisers, and to say that girls are "tidier" pffft, that stinks, sorry, but that does, and not from my experience are girls tidier
Posted 12 Oct 2014
Edited by digimarx 12 Oct 2014
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