Canon 7D mk II

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15 Sep 2014
Johnmphoto
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Johnmphoto
Canon anounce 7D mk II 

  • 150,000-pixel metering sensor, with IR detection
  • 10fps continuous shooting
  • 65-point wide-area autofocus
  • Advanced iTR focusing
  • Flicker Detection
  • Full HD with slow motion capture
  • Intelligent Viewfinder II
Posted 15 Sep 2014
Chandos
Photographer
Chandos
Looks like an APS-C version of the 5DMkIII.
Personally I would have preferred it to be APS-H.

Posted 15 Sep 2014
magpie1
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magpie1
Yes it looks quite tasty, obviously no images, from, rather than of yet, though doesn't stop resident numpties on DPreview reckon it's not up to much! The sensor is interesting and looks as if Canon aren't getting into 'numbers game' 20 Mp enough!the rumours that predicted 20Mp for 7Dii also predict 30 Mp for next FF.
I don't think APS-H makes too much of a case now, with ever increasing sensor quality, it needs FF lenses anyway so might as well cut out in between and go straight to FF.

Posted 15 Sep 2014
EllessePhotography
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EllessePhoto..
Chandos

Looks like an APS-C version of the 5DMkIII. Personally I would have preferred it to be APS-H.


+1

Posted 15 Sep 2014
Chandos
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Chandos
magpie1
Yes it looks quite tasty, obviously no images, from, rather than of yet, though doesn't stop resident numpties on DPreview reckon it's not up to much! The sensor is interesting and looks as if Canon aren't getting into 'numbers game' 20 Mp enough!the rumours that predicted 20Mp for 7Dii also predict 30 Mp for next FF. I don't think APS-H makes too much of a case now, with ever increasing sensor quality, it needs FF lenses anyway so might as well cut out in between and go straight to FF.
APS-H makes more sense as the sensor size allows AF point coverage a lot better than FF and with the 10fps makes it an ideal sport/action camera hence why the old 1DMk4 was aim for sport. I feel the 7DMkII tries to fit in were the Canon APS-H camera left off but just feel a tad let down that it is an APS-C.
Posted 15 Sep 2014
Edited by Chandos 15 Sep 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
Chandos

APS-H makes more sense as the sensor size allows AF point coverage a lot better than FF and with the 10fps makes it an ideal sport/action camera hence why the old 1DMk4 was aim for sport. I feel the 7DMkII tries to fit in were the Canon APS-H camera left off but just feel a tad let down that it is an APS-C.


I miss the 1D series cameras, I was saving to buy a 1DIV but then Canon scrapped it.  I thought the APS-H format was a nice compromise between sensor size (and the percieved increase in focal length) and sports performance.

Although for me the real benefit of the 1DIV was the sync speed at 1/300th, which with TTL Pocket Wizards could be fine-tuned to reach 1/500th on some flash units (for a near fully-open flash exposure).
Posted 15 Sep 2014
Kiboko
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Kiboko
Far too late for moi! I waited at least 3 years if not 4 and year after year nothing was announced. The last three 'Focus' shows at the NEC I've asked at the Canon stand about a 7D replacement and they either knew nothing, weren't saying anything or denied it would ever be produced. Eventually by last November I was so frustrated I explored other brands and finally decided on a Pentax K3 (24Mp, 7 f.p.s.) with 60-250mm f4 lens + 300mm f4 lens for my wildlife & sport photography, relinquishing my old 7D and the 70-300mm f5.6/400mm f5.6 L lenses that went with it. Far better in low light, focusing slightly slower, - no regrets.

Posted 15 Sep 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
Kiboko

Far too late for moi! I waited at least 3 years if not 4 and year after year nothing was announced.


Really?

The 7D was announced in 2009, and given that most of Canon's significant cameras (ie. the single figure bodies) have a 3-year cycle, that'll mean you should only have been expecting it two years ago at the earliest. 

In fact the cycles are actually increasing as time progresses, arguably due to the fact that digital technology is reaching a plateau of sorts and manufacturers are finding it increasingly difficult to incorporate ground-breaking features.  There's actually an arguement as well that they made the 7D too good for what it is and saw no reason to change it.

There's a timeline of this here on Wikipedia
Posted 16 Sep 2014
Edited by RedChecker 16 Sep 2014
Kiboko
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Kiboko
I'd have been one of those arguing that it's low light capability wasn't good enough, in fact I'd say, pretty appalling. Noise apparent and sometimes blatantly obvious at anything over 400 ISO. And it wasn't the wait that frustrated me, it was the lack of information, mis-information, down-right inaccurate information, rumour and counter-rumour that I found unnecessary and annoying. And being on the defensive when I criticised them. Canon have lost me as a result. As I said, no regrets.




Posted 16 Sep 2014
MG
Photographer
MG
Why can't Canon or Nikon actually bring out a new new camera? They put a few more megapixels in to it, added some more focus points added a couple of more frames a second and then put it in the same case! I've been a Canon user for years and whist it is nice to swap your next camera to something that is familiar I just feel that cameras lack design now. Why not put it in a nice bare metal aluminium casing and change the buttons for metal? Even changing the rubber grips around it would have been nice... I'm bored of the same design camera in and camera out! Please please Mr Canon man wherever you are get us something different to look at They really should have made it 4K video rather than 50fps (pal). Or why not even introduce the option to shoot video in raw like we are all crying out for? The downside i that Mr Canon won't read this
Posted 16 Sep 2014
EllessePhotography
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EllessePhoto..
MG

They really should have made it 4K video rather than 50fps (pal). Or why not even introduce the option to shoot video in raw like we are all crying out for?


No - they should've left it off

Posted 16 Sep 2014
Midnite
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Midnite
id be happy with a no video version of the 5d mk3 at a lower price.

i dont do video, i dont want video but i suppose they are worried some clever bugger will hack it and enable the video plus i guess they would need to make a different body case with no mike sockets etc

shame

Posted 16 Sep 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
From what I understand, the cost of adding video capability to a camera is absolutely minimal so you may was well have it.

Posted 16 Sep 2014
alexcrawford
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alexcrawford
RedChecker
From what I understand, the cost of adding video capability to a camera is absolutely minimal so you may was well have it.
just software right ?
Posted 19 Sep 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
alexcrawford

just software right ?


Part software, but also partly inclusion onto the camera's processor.  The biggest cost in adding video is likely any licensing payments to any companies who own the various video processing/codec technologies. 

If however a camera manufacturer were to increase recording time beyond 30 minutes then the price would massively increase, not because of technical problems but because EU law has a video camera tax that equates to a percentage of the device's cost (~5-12%).
Posted 20 Sep 2014
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