age limits (Republic of Ireland)

age limits (Republic of Ireland)

10 posts
27 June 2014
scruff
Photographer
scruff
hi all.i was asked by a 16 year old model for lingerie shots (with her perents permission).is this legal in [Republic of] Ireland or is 18 the age for this?have been told by different things by different people.just like to clear it up one way or another.
Posted 27 June 2014
Edited by Love 27 June 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
would stay well clear of any shoot involving under 18s in ANY country

Posted 27 June 2014
redbaron
Photographer
redbaron
Plymjack

would stay well clear of any shoot involving under 18s in ANY country


What on earth for? I simply cannot understand this sort of paranoia. Clearly the shoots need to be appropriate and it is wise to insist on a parent being at the session but otherwise age is a non issue.

I'm not familiar with how Irish law differs from the UK so will not try and respond directly. I did however find this pdf which should give you a few useful guides. From a quick glance it looks similar to the UK but there are variances. For example the definition of a child is subtly different.
http://cnci.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Guidelines_for_taking_images.pdf

Posted 27 June 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
redbaron

What on earth for? I simply cannot understand this sort of paranoia. Clearly the shoots need to be appropriate and it is wise to insist on a parent being at the session but otherwise age is a non issue.



When it comes to things like lingerie the law is often a grey area and down to wide interpretation.

Far safer to simply avoid all doubt and only shoot adults, especially if the photographer is not doing a professional job as this will raise further doubts about their motives.
Posted 27 June 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Not to mention the fact that you only need one irritated/over-concerned parent (not necessarily of the person you're shooting) and they can raise merry hell, especially with social media being what it is.

Posted 27 June 2014
Edited by RedChecker 27 June 2014
redbaron
Photographer
redbaron
RedChecker

Not to mention the fact that you only need one irritated/over-concerned parent (not necessarily of the person you're shooting) and they can raise merry hell, especially with social media being what it is.


Apologies. In trying to find a suitable page  in terms of the country I forgot the part about it being a lingerie shoot.. On that of course it is not about the law but the way others may choose to interpret it, however careful you are. I would suggest shorts and a bikini top as the limit. This is where one of the bigger studios chains draw the line for under 18 sessions.

Posted 27 June 2014
anthonyh
Photographer
anthonyh
Plymjack

would stay well clear of any shoot involving under 18s in ANY country


I didn't read the question as being one that generates your answer...the OP asked a purely technical question, not one inviting personal opinions.
Posted 27 June 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Was not a personal opinion... since the law extends beyond boarders as is now often reported ... so therefore I would suggest that to avoid any issue whatever the country .... I would avoid a lingerie shoot of any 18 year old...

Just regarding the age of consent issue - it ranges from 12 to 21 across the globe... so it is simpler to avoid the minefield all together.

Posted 27 June 2014
scruff
Photographer
scruff
Thanks for all the advise.not going to do the shoot.not worth the hassle.

Posted 27 June 2014
Photoimager
Photographer
Photoimager
Plymjack
would stay well clear of any shoot involving under 18s in ANY country


School photographers, Prom photographers, family photographers, parents etc clearly do not adhere to this pearl of wisdom.

OP, what the law says is open to intepretation. It is possible to take a photograph of a fully clothed minor whose posing and expressions mean that the image breaks the law. It is also possible to take nudes that do not break the law. However, the latter are more likely to see you being criminalised than the former because of the buttons it will press.


Posted 28 June 2014
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