Are photography workshops for the rich ?

Are photography workshops for the rich ?

18 posts
25 Feb 2014
PAULSHOOTS
Photographer
PAULSHOOTS
In the past I have seen photography workshops behind the scenes on youtube, which look really good. A pro photographer showing a small group of peoples how to take better photos in the classroom and then in the studio with models.

Yeah if you have £800-£1500 quid to spend and walking around with a Nikon D4 or a Canon 5D mark 3 and a 70-200mm lens.

I understand the pro photographer has to make a living to pay the bills and put food on the table. But like myself who has a part-time job, has a second hand Nikon camera and 50mm lens can you see me one of these workshops, the answer is NO.

Just once it would be great to see a pro photographer just bring the price down now and again for amateur photographers like myself who are willing to learn new wonderful skills and tricks. To bring to a shoot and get some of them wonderful photos you dream about.

Posted 25 Feb 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
It depends on your definition of rich. I've attended glamour courses costing as little as ~£100 for a day which includes the studio and model fees, a couple of others have cost me up to £300 a day (but IMO were game changers so worth every penny). It's not anyone else's fault you can't afford to attend them, and to be honest there's a lot of good stuff on youtube & the like anyway so if you can't afford to go on a course there's plenty of scope to learn there.
Posted 25 Feb 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
PAULSHOOTS

Yeah if you have £800-£1500 quid to spend and walking around with a Nikon D4 or a Canon 5D mark 3 and a 70-200mm lens.


I don't know what sort of training you are referring for this type of money and why camera snobbery is important.

One 2 one tuition with one of two or three of the best photographers / tutors on here will cost a fraction of that and may not even require a pretty lady as a model, you can use each other to demonstrate how to achieve effects / looks.

The pretty ladies in studio run workshops are probably a honey trap to stop you from spotting that the studio owner may not actually be able to teach you anything useful
Posted 25 Feb 2014
dannyrich
Photographer
dannyrich
McFade workshops look reasonable to me. Not that I have attended.

Posted 25 Feb 2014
Paul_Jones
Photographer
Paul_Jones
PAULSHOOTS

Just once it would be great to see a pro photographer just bring the price down now and again for amateur photographers like myself who are willing to learn new wonderful skills and tricks.



If you can spare £18 I recommend the 'From Concept to Print' workshops run by Damien Lovegrove.
http://www.prophotonut.com/2014/01/09/the-from-concept-to-print-uk-tour-is-now-live-for-booking/


I attended the one in November and it was fantastic.  Three hours of stunning photography and practical tips and lighting advice.
See - http://www.pauljones.org/?p=754
And - http://www.prophotonut.com/2013/11/07/concept-to-print-pictures-and-technique/


Best regards
Paul


Posted 25 Feb 2014
Edited by Paul_Jones 25 Feb 2014
OldMaster
Photographer
OldMaster
It's my impression that many of the workshops on here are run by studio owners to create extra income for themselves with the lure of a model or two. It's a free market of course but I would suggest you take a close look at the photographer's work before opening your wallet. Another issue I have is not just based on the quality of the course proposers work but what experience do they have to teach that knowledge? Given what some choose to charge the money might be better spent on a ten week college course.

I also see no relevance in your comments regarding equipment costs....a consumer level dslr is fine. It is the photographer who defines the quality of the final image...not the kit which so many seem to be hung up on these days?

Posted 25 Feb 2014
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
OldMaster

Given what some choose to charge the money might be better spent on a ten week college course.


You are joking surely?
Posted 25 Feb 2014
lester2705
Photographer
lester2705
Better still, why not take a look at creative live (www.creativelive.com)? They do a lot of varied courses on there which you can learn a lot from. They're not astronomical in price either and some of the courses are given by some of the top people in their field. Just recently for example, Sue Bryce, Frank Doorhoff, Lara Jade to name but a few.

Posted 25 Feb 2014
Imagefield
Photographer
Imagefield
As you are NW based how about -

Redeye.org.uk

or

whitworthadultprogramme.wordpress.com/alternative-camera-club/

Posted 26 Feb 2014
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
Photography workshops can be a good investment for someone interested in a specific even specialised subject. A lot of courses are intended to make running them as much return as possible. One wonders how some 'big names' find time to do high priced courses, if they are so busy being photographers?
Most basics and more can be learned through books, online and PRACTICE.
Many people on workshops are not actually there to learn, they are looking for 'formulas' and there are a few out there who will reveal the 'secrets' - for a price, there are no secrets.

Posted 26 Feb 2014
Rawandthecooked
Photographer
Rawandthecooked
Mine are excellent value for money, more so than a fong dome,orbis ring flash or the overpriced lighting accessory of your choice…..

Posted 26 Feb 2014
profilepictures
Photographer
profilepictures
It depends on the reasoning for the workshop, if profits are paramount then yes they may be expensive, equally if conducted by a very good tog with a very good teaching style, then probably a good investment.

Posted 26 Feb 2014
Plymjack
Photographer
Plymjack
Paul_Jones

If you can spare £18 I recommend the 'From Concept to Print' workshops run by Damien Lovegrove.
http://www.prophotonut.com/2014/01/09/the-from-concept-to-print-uk-tour-is-now-live-for-booking/


I attended the one in November and it was fantastic.  Three hours of stunning photography and practical tips and lighting advice.
See - http://www.pauljones.org/?p=754
And - http://www.prophotonut.com/2013/11/07/concept-to-print-pictures-and-technique/


Best regards
Paul




Thanks for that - booking mine this evening...
Posted 26 Feb 2014
Paul_Jones
Photographer
Paul_Jones
Plymjack

Thanks for that - booking mine this evening...


You'll enjoy it!  cheeky

His DVDs / Videos are really good too.  They were on sale at the workshop at a discounted price - http://www.lovegroveconsulting.com/training_video_downloads.aspx

Best regards
Paul
Posted 26 Feb 2014
eebijeebi
Photographer
eebijeebi
Why on earth would anyone drop their prices if they'll selling enough spaces? Madness.


Posted 26 Feb 2014
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