Is there actually any photographers out there who want to shoot models...

Is there actually any photographers out there who want to shoot models with clothes on?!

83 posts
12 Feb 2014
I don't mind models who do glamour/nude shoots etc, but I prefer just to do fashion and shoots not showing everything that I have got, but photographers don't seem to want that now a days.. Is it just me who's noticing this? I've put a post out that I'm a model looking for paid work, but the fact I don't do nude, I am getting no where! is it not about facial looks any more?
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by CharleyBarker 12 Feb 2014
On the internet scene there isn't much call for fashion only models so what little paid work there is generally goes to established models who have a strong fashion portfolio already.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
I always keep my clothes on.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
Socialdisaster
Photographer
Socialdisast..
I think you have to be something really really special to pull off paid work / fully clothed in this scene. Note that's not a judgement on you, I haven't even looked at your profile.
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Paul_Jones
Photographer
Paul_Jones
CharleyBarker

I've put a post out that I'm a model looking for paid work, but the fact I don't do nude, I am getting no where! 


I'm just throwing this out as a suggestion, but the line in your profile that reads  "I like having my own say in what I shoot and not always getting told what is going to happen by the photographer."  might possibly deter or raise a question mark with some photographers.

Best regards
Paul
Posted 12 Feb 2014
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
Most models who shoot fashion don't have a lot of fashion items to shoot. Purchasing or hiring fashion items can be expensive, as is hiring a stylist. Some fashion models are good at makeup, but many are not so you may need a MUA and hair sylist as well.

This is Dawa Ma on a Fashion Shoot at Lordship Park in London. There were 4 models + MUA + Stylist (Lisa Fifer). If you want to shoot fashion, then this can be quite expensive if you hire all the creative team. it is much cheaper to shoot art nude.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by tarmoo 12 Feb 2014
Yes is the simple answer. Just go into any WH Smiths and look at the magazine rack, I think you will find nude models in a distinct minority! On sites like this though clearly the preference is nude and even in the serious fashion world a model has no real chance if they are prescious about never having anything on show.

Assuming you have not already I would sit down and decide just where your redlines are then work out how you can create your own USP within what you are comfortable with. If you are intending to push yourself as a contemporary fashion model then you need to have the outfits that will wow, even if begged and borrowed from designers. Plus of course being practised in the poses that work. If lingerie/swimwear then it has to be top notch stuff not gear you wear day in day out or can be bought cheap in Primark.

There is scope on the fetish side too of course. Latex PVC leather. Very few photographers doing it for a bit of fun are going to spend out on this gear but may hire a model they know can bring something unique to a shoot.

I know plenty of models who make a full time job of it. Some work to nude others only lingerie or implied topless. The reason for them making a living from it has less to do with what they are happy to take off and a lot more to do with them treating it as a serious business and putting in the effort that requires. As with any business there is no magic bullet. No 'trick' that suddenly brings the cash flooding in. It is a case of doing it. Getting it wrong, learning where your screwed up then doingi it a little better. If you are smarter than average then you will watch and learn from otheres mistakes and be prepared to listen and learn from those making it work.
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
When I want to shoot clothed, it will either be with a specialist fashion and or beauty model or as part of a art nude shoot or because I am working with a specialist sports model.

I don't really have any need to book someone for simple clothed work as a one off shoot if they don't meet the criteria I mentioned above on a TF let alone paid basis.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
StreetModel
Photographer
StreetModel
I think part of the issue is the type of people that use places like this for their models as opposed to big agencies etc. In WH Smiths, I agree, there are very few models in the nude, but then again, there are very few photographers working for those magazines looking for their models on here.

Most photographers here are hobbyist, semi pro, guys with cameras, a few ideas and maybe a few quid to spend. They are going to want to get the most for their money, and if they want to shoot a person in clothes, they probably ask the wife/kids etc.

I am sure there are many professionals on here too, but do they use here to source all their models? I doubt it somehow...

Posted 12 Feb 2014
PaulManuell
Photographer
PaulManuell
In answer to the question that's the title of your thread - Yes, me. However, even though I've not looked at your profile yet, I have to agree with Paul Jones, ref. his quote from your profile. To me it comes across slightly aggressive or over assertive. I'd like to think that, as long as I was working within the model's levels, I'd have a major say in how I'd like to shoot her if I was paying her. Update: Ok, I've just had a look at your profile and the line Paul Jones quoted from it is no longer there, so I'm assuming you took his comment onboard.
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by PaulManuell 12 Feb 2014
Ferj
Photographer
Ferj
I mainly shoot clothed models, normally out on location however.. For me it is about my vision (which I am still developing around model photography)when I book a shoot with a model it is because they suit the image I am going for, I welcome input, but if you want your say in what is photographed - pay for a photographer. Hire them to do what you want.

Posted 13 Feb 2014
pinkbuildingphotography
Photographer
pinkbuilding..
Yes I do.

However it is rare that I can afford to shoot.

However Derbyshire is too far away to contemplate shooting.



Posted 13 Feb 2014
Mcroshaw
Photographer
Mcroshaw
I have been shooting models with and without clothes on for some time now. I've reached a point where there is no way I would consider a fashion shoot unless the model brings with them some interesting outfits and accessories and we have a theme for the shoot. Showing up with a few t-shirts just won't be worth it ( and that has happened - I've shot TF with a few models whose idea of a fashion shoot is one dress and a few t-shirts and shorts ). Therefore, like quite a few people on here said, for the typical hobbyist/home studio shooter you will find on here its not worth booking someone just for fashion. Especially once the photographer is at a decent level, studio fashion really requires a full team or a very creative model with some good outfits and ideas. For location shoots you can get away with slightly less, but location shoots are not too popular at the moment for some reason.

Posted 13 Feb 2014
profilepictures
Photographer
profilepictu..
I'd always prefer to work with someone who is happy to nude, even if I'm shooting clothed. Its just easier and often in this realm, a good indicator or confidence.

Fashion, as pointed out is pretty tricky unless you're very wealthy or well connected and the models who have excellent styling and ability in that area do seem to keep busy; however, just having some stuff from dotty p and primark or some high street named gear isn't very interesting to work with.

My suggestion is, of you want to become bookable, get your thinking cap on and maybe go attack your local charity shops, find something, some things which would make a photographers mind whizz a bit, then you'll maybe get busier?

Posted 13 Feb 2014
GlasgowPhotographer
Photographer
GlasgowPhoto..
I shoot "fashion" at a low level, not at "mainstream magazine" quality for local shops etc. It's always with a team and the client provides the clothes. Models are sourced locally and usually selected to "fit" the generally theme.

There is work there, but not plentiful, and certainly not enough to make a living from at the level mentioned.

I think you would need to be pretty exceptional to be selected for high street store publications and that would always involve a full team - as mentioned previously.

Posted 13 Feb 2014
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