Flooding

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11 Feb 2014
speedway45
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speedway45
Now the floods have reached London our prime minister has said that money is no object.
Now that London is in danger,he thinks we may now have a problem.


Posted 11 Feb 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
There's a big difference between a few farmers and villages being flooded compared to the impact of what could happen if what is arguably the world's finance capital is ruined through flooding. Yes it's unfair but people really need to get a grip on why things are prioritised the way governments do.

The reality is, we can carry on quite happily while Somerset is flooded but if London's ruined for weeks on end, we'll all be ****ed for years to come.

Posted 11 Feb 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
Maybe it's because the Thames valley is full of Tory constituencies - not really London
[although Somerset also votes Tory, there are only a limited number of voters effected.]

Posted 11 Feb 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 11 Feb 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
stolenfaces
Maybe it's because the Thames valley is full of Tory constituencies - not really London [although Somerset also votes Tory, there are only a limited number of voters effected.]
The Home Counties is safe Tory territory, even if it were allowed to flood the constituents are intelligent enough not to vote for anyone else.
Posted 11 Feb 2014
For_Arts_Sake
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stolenfaces
[although Somerset also votes Tory, there are only a limited number of voters effected.]
Perhaps that's why Tony Blair took the deliberate decision to implement an EU policy which would ensure that large parts of Somerset would get flooded when it rained heavily. Oh, and a lot of Somerset votes Lib Dem rather than Conservative.
Posted 11 Feb 2014
RedChecker
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RedChecker
Let's also not forget that if it hadn't been for the mismanagement of this country's finances by the Labour government, we probably would have had the finances to do more to combat this or at the very least not make cutbacks.

Posted 11 Feb 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
For_Arts_Sake
Perhaps that's why Tony Blair took the deliberate decision to implement an EU policy which would ensure that large parts of Somerset would get flooded when it rained heavily. Oh, and a lot of Somerset votes Lib Dem rather than Conservative.
Didn't do them any good voting Liberal did it ? They still had to put up with Dave in his wellies. It would be fair to blame Tony Blair for being Bush's warmongering chum, but it seems quite desperate to blame him for what this government has or hasn't done in nearly 4 years. Didn't you know it was all Cameron's fault for passing gay marriage ? Where was the water that is flooding Somerset supposed to have gone ?
Posted 11 Feb 2014
flashysnapper
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RedChecker

There's a big difference between a few farmers and villages being flooded compared to the impact of what could happen if what is arguably the world's finance capital is ruined through flooding. Yes it's unfair but people really need to get a grip on why things are prioritised the way governments do. The reality is, we can carry on quite happily while Somerset is flooded but if London's ruined for weeks on end, we'll all be ****ed for years to come.



But do you not think that if a few farms in somerset are f*****d for a few years its not going to have serious impact on food costs for a long time?
Posted 11 Feb 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
RedChecker
Let's also not forget that if it hadn't been for the mismanagement of this country's finances by the Labour government, we probably would have had the finances to do more to combat this or at the very least not make cutbacks.
But we have got the finances, Dave says so. He has also admitted that the cutbacks were largely ideological. And how much did we get ripped off when Royal Mail was given away....
Posted 11 Feb 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 11 Feb 2014
RedChecker
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flashysnapper
But do you not think that if a few farms in somerset are f*****d for a few years its not going to have serious impact on food costs for a long time?
Not really, we import most of our food and the supermarkets will simply drive prices for the farmers from other parts of the country even harder.
Posted 11 Feb 2014
PeterH
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speedway45

Now the floods have reached London our prime minister has said that money is no object. Now that London is in danger,he thinks we may now have a problem.


When the effluent hits the affluent...............
Posted 11 Feb 2014
RupertRudd
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North / South. In 2006 when Hull and immediate area had 6500 houses flooded out and a man slowly drowned to death, it was on TV but much less of an outcry than the Somerset Levels with far less people affected. Care homes here evacuated, services interupted and the City just had to get on with it. No PM shovelling money into the area. Whilst I have huge sympathy with the South and the current problems it is difficult to forget that we felt they had turned their backs to the North.

Posted 12 Feb 2014
Bob
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Bob
RupertRudd

North / South. In 2006 when Hull and immediate area had 6500 houses flooded out and a man slowly drowned to death, it was on TV but much less of an outcry than the Somerset Levels with far less people affected. Care homes here evacuated, services interupted and the City just had to get on with it. No PM shovelling money into the area.

Bearing in mind that the PM at the time represented a northern constituency and the Deputy PM actually represented a Hull constituency it rather puzzled me why the chattering Lefties didn't make a fuss about that, just like they didn't have much of a go at the Blair regime when the then Labour constituency of Selby in Yorkshire was badly affected by flooding of the Ouse in 2000. But then again the Left was strangely quiet on the public protest front for thirteen years until May 2010, so I suppose I shouldn't have expected them to make waves for their heroes.
There is a lot of bullsh!t being spouted about the floods (this was Somerset last Friday) but the three key factors are quite simple:-
  • Too many properties have been built at ground level on flood plains
  • Too much emphasis has been placed on providing habitats for wetlands wildlife
  • Too much of the Atlantic has been dumped on southern England this winter.
These are not problems generated by the present Government as the first two have built up over a great many years and the third is either the result of an ultra-long-term natural weather cycle or the cumulation of a couple of centuries of global industrialisation causing climate change.

Bob
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Keltica
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Keltica
Common lets get real, villages and towns have been flooding for years, and I noticed that when farmers in the uplands started to get serious with draining the fields, and when we had downpours, the ditches started to overflow due to the speed of the water coming off the fields due to that drainage.

Subsequently water poured into the small burns, becks (streams, and within hours the rivers were pushing that water downstream in torrents which meant that banks burst and where floods had occurred occasionally, they have become more common.

I believe that farmers downstream, say in the levels and low lying areas near the coast, are being flooded due to the farmers further in the uplands and hills.

You canny have it both ways Eddie Grundy.



Posted 12 Feb 2014
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
Bob
Bearing in mind that the PM at the time represented a northern constituency and the Deputy PM actually represented a Hull constituency it rather puzzled me why the chattering Lefties didn't make a fuss about that, just like they didn't have much of a go at the Blair regime when the then Labour constituency of Selby in Yorkshire was badly affected by flooding of the Ouse in 2000. But then again the Left was strangely quiet on the public protest front for thirteen years until May 2010, so I suppose I shouldn't have expected them to make waves for their heroes. There is a lot of bullsh!t being spouted about the floods (this was Somerset last Friday) but the three key factors are quite simple:- Too many properties have been built at ground level on flood plains Too much emphasis has been placed on providing habitats for wetlands wildlife Too much of the Atlantic has been dumped on southern England this winter. These are not problems generated by the present Government as the first two have built up over a great many years and the third is either the result of an ultra-long-term natural weather cycle or the cumulation of a couple of centuries of global industrialisation causing climate change. Bob
Which lefties? Which of these: The Daily Mail, UKIP, The Somerset Farmers, Thames Valley Tory councils and councillors, Eric Pickles, Patrick McLoughlin, Owen Paterson. Us lefties have only complained about the inappropriate and juvenile blame game being fought by (and between) cabinet ministers. I would also query whether cutting the Environment Agency's budget is an obvious solution to the problem. My understanding is that the flooding in Somerset has gone on for an unprecedented period which distinguished it from other (northern) floods mentioned here. Obviously the Thames Valley will attract attention because it is close to London and cheap for the media to cover, and full of important (rich) people with friends in high places.
Posted 12 Feb 2014
Edited by stolenfaces 12 Feb 2014
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