MPs to get 11% Pay Rise

MPs to get 11% Pay Rise

34 posts
8 Dec 2013
RobCarter
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RobCarter
I don't post much but this has really angered me. Throughout the county public services are under squeeze because of governmental cuts. People are losing their jobs and are being hit with pay freezes and high energy bills. David Cameron says we are all in this together....except of course if you are a politician and about to receive an 11% pay rise. If you disagree please sign this and write to you local politician making your feelings clear. https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/david-cameron-stop-the-11-pay-rise-for-mps-salaries

Posted 8 Dec 2013
RedChecker
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RedChecker
If you actually read the news properly you'll notice the pay rise has been approved by an independent body who are in charge of dictating the pay of MPs. Furthermore all three main party leaders are against it as well as many other MPs due to it being insensitive in the current climate but this body are insisting it is the right thing to do.

Posted 8 Dec 2013
Chandos
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Chandos
Yet the MPs and PM himself already knew about this ages ago but in no hurry to change the law to overrule this independent body that set MPs pay. Now whoever it was to let independent body to set MPs pay I bet he/she is telling us they did that because they don't want to be seen as rewarding themselves inflation busting pay rise so now they can blame their wage rise on someone else.
I suggest all MPs accept just 1% pay rise like many ordinary public sector employees does and donate the rest of their pay increase to fuel bill hardship funds.

Posted 8 Dec 2013
Edited by Chandos 8 Dec 2013
Brian_Markie
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Brian_Markie
Propaganda will always breed contempt. Of course they will say the leaders are against it becaue it would be politically incorrect to agree with such an ambitious pay rise. All politicians have to be seen to be saying and doing the right things especially in the current climate. What you won't hear from all leaders is that they will be giving up their pay rise and relinquishing it to charity, because they like everyone are greedy. A simple fact of life.
Posted 8 Dec 2013
tonycsm
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tonycsm
When you get prima donna football players kicking a ball around that earn 20, 30, 40...times the annual wage of MP's and even the PM who have all the responsibility of looking after the country, it somehow puts their wages into perspective.

As RC has indicated, it's not the MPs who are seeking wage increases, it's the body in charge of setting their wages suggesting they accept it! 
Posted 8 Dec 2013
Andy_B
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Andy_B
Good. They should be paid a lot more.

No wonder we have such a bunch of no-hopers if the job pays less than doctors, accountants, dentists, managers - a whole range of professional but low risk occupations that don't carry the same amount of criticism or danger of being immediately unemployed that politics does.

Posted 8 Dec 2013
Chandos
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Chandos
I might be wrong but notice not many former MPs joins the dole queu. I'm sure many of them after they leave office end up as directors of companies and consultant for banks and corporations. Ever heard of "revolving doors"?


Posted 8 Dec 2013
tonycsm
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tonycsm
Chandos

I might be wrong but notice not many former MPs joins the dole queu. I'm sure many of them after they leave office end up as directors of companies and consultant for banks and corporations. Ever heard of "revolving doors"?


There are many MPs who would be far better off working in other jobs than through the salary they receive for being an MP.  In fact many give up well paid jobs just to become MPs.

Posted 8 Dec 2013
Chandos
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Chandos
tonycsm
There are many MPs who would be far better off working in other jobs than through the salary they receive for being an MP.  In fact many give up well paid jobs just to become MPs.
Once upon a time only those who are very rich can be expected to run as MPs. In theory they cant be bribed and not in it for the money. I can't say the same for many of the current crop. Many MPs are in there for networking, creating favourable conditions through legislations they were involved in that favours themselves when they leave office and join these industries they helped while in public office. A list of some former MPs that left offices from the last general election http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2011/12/14/analysis-former-mps-where-are-they-now/
Posted 8 Dec 2013
Edited by Chandos 8 Dec 2013
cziiki
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cziiki
Can anyone tell me why the pay that MPs get has anything to do with the state of the economy?

I'd quite like competent MPs and these days they are not normally independently wealthy so they need pay and need to find the job attractive.

They have their pay set by an independent body based on the rate they would get for comparable jobs.

The economy is affected by international markets and Treasury policy. Not MPs.

So what's the deal about coming down on MPs pay? I genuinely don't get it.



Posted 9 Dec 2013
RedChecker
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RedChecker
cziiki

Can anyone tell me why the pay that MPs get has anything to do with the state of the economy?


It's all to do with Labour voters wanting any excuse to beat their gums most likely.
Posted 9 Dec 2013
theperfectgentleman
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theperfectge..
I just think it should be relevant, If MP's get 11% the benefits and pensions paid to the electorate should rise by the same percentage.
It would cut a lot of the discord and totally irrelevant comparisons that come out of the woodwork again and again.

Posted 9 Dec 2013
mph
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mph
Assuming you have read the IPSA report http://parliamentarystandards.org.uk/payandpensions/Documents/9.%20MPs%27%20Pay%20and%20Pensions%20-%20A%20New%20Package%20-%20July%202013.pdf It would be interesting to hear the points where you feel they got it wrong (you have read the report not just the media headlines of course?)
Posted 9 Dec 2013
Edited by mph 9 Dec 2013
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
cziiki
Can anyone tell me why the pay that MPs get has anything to do with the state of the economy? I'd quite like competent MPs and these days they are not normally independently wealthy so they need pay and need to find the job attractive. They have their pay set by an independent body based on the rate they would get for comparable jobs. The economy is affected by international markets and Treasury policy. Not MPs. So what's the deal about coming down on MPs pay? I genuinely don't get it.
The point is that MPs' pay is compared to that of top paid people who have all been happily increasing their pay at a huge rate whilst claiming their companies can only survive by cutting the wages of the normal worker. When they decided that civil servants should get negligible pay increases that ignored the worth of the jobs that particular civil servants did, and it was the politicians that said 'we are all in it together'. This report just proves what a total lie that was. An MP's salary should only ever increase at the same rate as the lowest paid cleaner or catering worker at the house of commons (or at the % increase of the minimum wage). Is anyone seriously suggesting that the standard of MPs and particularly ministers has increased in line with their increased pay? You also have to remember that for many, being an MP is just a part-time job.
Posted 10 Dec 2013
Edited by stolenfaces 9 Dec 2013
tonycsm
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tonycsm
I'd hate to be a socialist!

Posted 10 Dec 2013
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