TTL off camera flash from Profoto

TTL off camera flash from Profoto

14 posts
5 Nov 2013
nakedobsession
Photographer
nakedobsessi..
Wow.
Look what I just found;

http://profoto.com/products/off-camera-flash/b1-off-camera-flash/

A 500joule Off-Camera, TTL Flash from Profoto. Announced today!
This could be what we have all been waiting for.

Posted 6 Nov 2013
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
Well yes it could be what we've all been waiting for but being Profoto probably in the £2k region -for 1. The Profoto web site crashed for a time as it was getting so many hits.

Posted 6 Nov 2013
Astphoto
Photographer
Astphoto
Err, am I missing something? off camera flash is the norm for a pro, you just have to understand the craft of photography.

In the beginning we used magnesium powder...

Posted 6 Nov 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Astphoto

Err, am I missing something?


How many 500W flash units do you know of that are TTL?

Most speedlights are around the 40/50W range I believe and even specialist ones like Quantum QFlash are only ~150W.  Bear in mind that with this you have immediate access to the entire catalogue of Profoto's modifiers be it hard or soft and you've got quite a potent product, albeit most likely astronomically expensive.
Posted 6 Nov 2013
Edited by RedChecker 6 Nov 2013
paule
Photographer
paule
as a product it's superb.. studio equivalent light power and quality with TTL and no leads...

Price may be prohibitive... though I expect we'll get some clones from China soon enough...

Posted 6 Nov 2013
paule
Photographer
paule
$1995, each.. not a kit... Pre-Order from B&H in the US... so at least we have a ball park figure...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=PRB1AIR&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=/BI/6857/KBID/7410


Posted 6 Nov 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
paule

Price may be prohibitive... though I expect we'll get some clones from China soon enough...


The 'problem' with Profoto is that they are VERY good in terms of performance (I own one alongside my Bowens heads), and they work on the basis of no-compromise in terms of build and ability hence the silly costs (ditto for Broncolor & Briese).  The cheaper Chinese ones will always be cutting corners at some point.

I think they've missed an oportunity by not producing some cheaper non-TTL ones, and as a Pocket Wizard owner I'm slightly annoyed they're insisting on going to their own proprietary radio system (my own Profoto has a Pocket Wizard antenna/receiver built-in, works beautifully with PW enabled Sekonic light meters).  And I think it would serve them well to make some lights at a bit more of accessible cost to the masses, simply to get them on-board with their system rather than giving in and going for a competitor's make (Elinchrom IMO being the obvious alternative if you can't afford Profoto).
Posted 6 Nov 2013
Edited by RedChecker 6 Nov 2013
eosfan
Photographer
eosfan
I've been using my 2 Profoto Compact 600 heads for a few years now, along with two Bowens 400w Gemini units, but am now seriously considering replacing the Profotos with a pair of 500W Bowens Gemini simply on grounds of accessories cost, for example a honeycomb grid for the Profoto head is around £250 against about £150-£160 for the same by Bowens. I also want to get a portable battery pack - the Profoto one is completely out of the question, purely on cost.

Both pairs of head units have been equally reliable over the years of use.

Dave

Posted 6 Nov 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
£1554 at Calumet

I'm actually somewhat surprised they didn't simply swap the $ sign for a £ one and charge £1999 (as usually happens when we see US prices first)
Posted 7 Nov 2013
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
RedChecker
£1554 at Calumet I'm actually somewhat surprised they didn't simply swap the $ sign for a £ one and charge £1999 (as usually happens when we see US prices first)
I'm surprised as well, the $=£ 'equality' winds me up. Maybe a sign of difficult trading time.
Posted 7 Nov 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Compared to an Elinchrom Ranger Quadra (£1120 @ The Flash Centre) it is more expensive but I wouldn't say the price is too unrealistic. It is 500W vs 400W, and has TTL built-in. You are also argueably buying into a better quality system also (I've used an Elinchrom Ranger Quadra and they are flimsy in comparison). And as a Profoto owner I will confess I've considered Ranger Quadras for supplimental lights to my 1200W main battery pack but the kicker has always been that it's yet another system to deal with (I already own Bowens as well) so I'm keen to see how these perform (although I'd rather they shaved a few bob off and did non-TTL ones as well).
Posted 7 Nov 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
magpie1

I'm surprised as well, the $=£ 'equality' winds me up. Maybe a sign of difficult trading time.


If you look at their new universal softbox range introduced in the last year it seems to me that they're aggresively trying to muscle-in on the mid-range market (Elinchrom, Bowens) as they're both decent quality (I own their 5' Octa) and keenly priced.

They've also recently released a range of Cali-Sunbounce like reflectors so they're attacking the competition from multiple angles.
Posted 7 Nov 2013
Rawandthecooked
Photographer
Rawandthecoo..
I love my quadra! Who really needs TTL? I mean, seriously…….. (yes I do sometimes use it for strobism, but really, manual is better!) We all know Red is a profoto fan boy though…...

Posted 9 Nov 2013
Bayrunner
Photographer
Bayrunner
RedChecker

I'm actually somewhat surprised they didn't simply swap the $ sign for a £ one and charge £1999 (as usually happens when we see US prices first)


As Profoto are Swedish, there aren't the complications and cost of transatlantic freight involved, and being in the EEC as well, there are minimal formalities required to get these into the UK.


Posted 9 Nov 2013
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