Updates to the casting call section

Updates to the casting call section

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16 Sep 2013
matt
Photographer
matt
Hi everyone

Just to keep you all in the loop, I'm hoping to do some updates to the casting call section this weekend if all goes well. There are 2 main changes I will be making :-

1) replace the areas with counties
2) allow multiple locations to be added to a casting call


There will aslo be some presentation changes and I have removed propose removing the term 'Adult' and replaced it with 'Nude'. The reason for this is because I think the word Adult now implies images of sexual interaction between 2 people and some members are getting a bit confused by it.

I will be deleting casting calls that are over 6 months old as there isn't really any need for them.

I'm also doing some back end changes to speed things up a bit.

Best wishes

Matt

Posted 16 Sep 2013
Edited by WebModerator 13 Oct 2013
Sounds good. Looking forward to the changes.
Posted 17 Sep 2013
mark_e
Photographer
mark_e
Isn’t changing ‘adult’ to ‘nude’ going to create further confusion?  Without getting into semantics wouldn’t something like ‘explicit’ be more appropriate?  Just a suggestion  
Posted 17 Sep 2013
lester2705
Photographer
lester2705
mark_e

Isn’t changing ‘adult’ to ‘nude’ going to create further confusion?  Without getting into semantics wouldn’t something like ‘explicit’ be more appropriate?  Just a suggestion  



+1
Posted 17 Sep 2013
IainT
Photographer
IainT
mark_e
Isn’t changing ‘adult’ to ‘nude’ going to create further confusion?  Without getting into semantics wouldn’t something like ‘explicit’ be more appropriate?  Just a suggestion  
I agree here...its hard enough getting models to accept that a casting is adult even if you write "THIS MEANS EXPLICIT OPEN-LEG IMAGES", they still find some way to interpret it as somehow suiting their own levels. I'm sure changing adult to nude will lead to further confussion and give models even more licence to interpret castings to suit themselves, whatever you write, and just result in even more wasted bandwidth..
Posted 17 Sep 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
matt


There will aslo be some presentation changes and I have removed the term 'Adult' and replaced it with 'Nude'. The reason for this is because I think the word Adult now implies images of sexual interaction between 2 people and some members are getting a bit confused by it.



No

I'm sure many who shoot 'adult' will make it clear in their communications what is needed but for those in the know (both experienced models and photographers alike) keeping the word 'adult' makes a very clear distinction between simply nudity and sexually explicit work.
Posted 17 Sep 2013
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
Very helpful changes/improvements, especially the geographical. I would agree with some necessity to indicate a differential into higher levels, 'nude' , to include adult could produce some embarrassment and confusion to both models and photographers! It's just too broad a term in this context.
I think the term 'explicit' would be helpful.

Posted 17 Sep 2013
thestarglider
Photographer
thestarglider
mark_e

Isn’t changing ‘adult’ to ‘nude’ going to create further confusion?  Without getting into semantics wouldn’t something like ‘explicit’ be more appropriate?  Just a suggestion  


+10000
Posted 17 Sep 2013
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
matt


There will aslo be some presentation changes and I have removed the term 'Adult' and replaced it with 'Nude'. The reason for this is because I think the word Adult now implies images of sexual interaction between 2 people and some members are getting a bit confused by it.




Agree with the other comments.
There is a huge variety of levels that models will and wont work within both nude and adult. BUT there does seem to be a understanding that open leg and other higher levels are explicit and simple nude up to full frontal is not necessarily explicit. Not all models treat that as the level change or what they deem acceptable but blurring these two levels into one would cause confusion. It would be harder for a model to complain about level pushing and the adult shooters and adult models are going to have a tougher job attracting bookings



Posted 17 Sep 2013
PeterH
Photographer
PeterH
Yep, removing adult castings will only increase the claims of level pushing, when you basically class art nude and porn as the same thing.

A better idea would be to make adult castings only visible to those who have ticked 'adult' on their profile, and unlink 'fetish' from adult too. Whilst fetish can be adult, many are not.

There are already too many non-adult castings marked adult, your suggestion will only make this worse, making even worse than it is already.

Posted 17 Sep 2013
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
PeterH

There are already too many non-adult castings marked adult, your suggestion will only make this worse, making even worse than it is already.


Yeah, but they're over 18 innit?
Posted 17 Sep 2013
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
I am sure all those models who shoot art nude would not want to be swamped with offers of open leg work if both are categorised as the same.

Posted 17 Sep 2013
Socialdisaster
Photographer
Socialdisaster
I can't understand removing adult. it's going to lead to endless false castings. Its not even worth explaining within the casting as lets face, barely anyone reads them properly. The adult tag was a great filter.

Posted 17 Sep 2013
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
PeterH

A better idea would be to make adult castings only visible to those who have ticked 'adult' on their profile, and unlink 'fetish' from adult too.


While I agree with your logic, in the real world, where people have jobs outside of photography, what they shoot is up to them but they shouldn't be forced to admit that by putting it on their profile.

A simple check box that the person uses that no one else sees should be sufficient. That works both ways [models and photographers] and you may lose a lot of models who are prepared to shoot adult and even do currently but are not prepared to put it in black and white on their profiles for their employer, family or vicar to see.

The old adage you only shoot what you are happy to have put on the internet does apply but there is a huge difference from it being found and you drawing everyones attention to it by advertising the fact


Posted 17 Sep 2013
Edited by Gerry99111 17 Sep 2013
IainT
Photographer
IainT
Gerry99111
While I agree with your logic, in the real world, where people have jobs outside of photography, what they shoot is up to them but they shouldn't be forced to admit that by putting it on their profile. A simple check box that the person uses that no one else sees should be sufficient. That works both ways [models and photographers] and you may lose a lot of models who are prepared to shoot adult and even do currently but are not prepared to put it in black and white on their profiles for their employer, family or vicar to see. The old adage you only shoot what you are happy to have put on the internet does apply but there is a huge difference from it being found and you drawing everyones attention to it by advertising the fact
Agree here, if only models who ticked adult on their profile saw adult castings it would be be pointless labelling castings as adult, given that at least 50% of models prepared to shoot adult on occassion, don't have that box ticked on their profile.
Posted 17 Sep 2013
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