The problem with professional wedding photographer (or just professionals in general), is that they feel it is their (as in members of their profession) God-given right to earn money out a job and the concept of someone undercutting them or even doing something for free really gets their back up. They near as damn-it have a union like mentality over the whole concept of doing photographic work, which IMO is incredibly outdated and a good example that they cannot move with the times. Ultimately I guess they'd want a system of acreditation much like architects for example although I suspect they know full well that'll bring many of them under scrutiny for the quality and professionalism of their work. IMO they'd be better off clubbing together to form a guild of sorts with high quality as it's leading principle, that way the better ones among them will be able to combat the flood of weekend warrior type photographers who do make a living that have decimated their industry with cheap/low quality photography rather than picking on the odd guy/girl wanting to have a go. You only have to look at the standard of photographers on the SWPP website to realise they've only got themselves to blame for allowing this sort of amateurish behavior to spread/multiply. Yes, to do something about it could be branded as elitism, but then again so it talking down to and critisising those wanting a go. I would agree though that as 'professionals', having a whine about these things on forums does make you question their professionalism, heaven forbid should they have a client who rubs their fur the wrong way.
You are such a hypocrite at times.
You slate professionals and defend people having the balls to take them on, which is something you have done consistently for a few years now, but you absolutely slate and also want removed, anyone who joins a modelling and photography site who can't produce a quality that you deem to be good enough.
The two arguments don't really sit well together.
for me it's about honesty, a lot of cheap start up photographers aren't honest about their experience, use "portfolio day" images and sell sell sell rather than saying "i'm cheap because i'm not really sure what i'm doing" meh, my clients spend the money and they're the type i want, i don't cry over tfp weddings or the £250 full day folk because they're just not the people who are going to pay the money I want or value my photography in the first place
+1 I don't have any problems with other photographers working for low or none existant rates, irrespective of their ability it's not a sustainable business model & normally dissapear in between 6 - 18 months.
I do however take issue with photographers who claim amazing abilities & on the day can't produce the goods they are cowboys.
There was one localish to me whose website consisted of other photographer's work, he has since vanished however he did leave several unhappy couples in his wake.
You know how there are only Corgi gas registered engineers that can do anything to do with domestic/commercial gas fittings? Well that is what some pro wedding photographers are like. They believe (or would 'like' I should say) that only people who are registered can take wedding photos and the hobbyist/jack of all trades/DIY enthusiast shouldn't be able to touch them. When a hobbyist/JOAT/DIY enthusiast does do them then they kick off and feel threatened by it.