Can you live on £53 a week?

Can you live on £53 a week?

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2 April 2013
anthonyh
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anthonyh

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If you can't, you might like to sign this petition!surprise


http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week
Posted 2 April 2013
Edited by ForumModerator 4 April 2013
photo_phil
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photo_phil
I know I ant live on that little amount, butI don't see what signing the petition will accomplish.


Posted 2 April 2013
anthonyh
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anthonyh
photo_phil

I know I ant live on that little amount, butI don't see what signing the petition will accomplish.


It sends a message to a millionaire ( and his party ) who pontificates about how normal people can live...it seems thousands of people an hour are doing just that this evening. I know that if I took the weekly outgoings I have no control over (utilities, council tax, house insurance) I doubt if £53 would cover it.
Posted 2 April 2013
Andy_B
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It seems that IDS spent his early working years as a Squaddie in Northern Island and Zimbabwe (6 years), followed by a spell on the dole before he entered politics. He had a working class background and was educated at a comprehensive in Solihull. He's made a bit of money more recently through after dinner speaking (presumably after he left the Tory leadership position... he was unknown before) and he's currently valued at around £1m. But yes, don't let a few facts hold you back from getting involved in this 'class warfare' BS.
Posted 3 April 2013
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Signed. Class warfare is pretty much irrelevant. Arrogant wealthy establishment figures with shadowy subversive friends really ought not to pretend they're in it with us. They aren't. I'll amuse myself at those of you here who defend the establishment, rather naively believing you're part of it or in any way valued by it.

Posted 3 April 2013
mikethefoto
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Andy_B

It seems that IDS spent his early working years as a Squaddie in Northern Island and Zimbabwe (6 years), followed by a spell on the dole before he entered politics. He had a working class background and was educated at a comprehensive in Solihull. He's made a bit of money more recently through after dinner speaking (presumably after he left the Tory leadership position... he was unknown before) and he's currently valued at around £1m. But yes, don't let a few facts hold you back from getting involved in this 'class warfare' BS.

His parents were a Group Captain & a professional ballerina, he joined the Scots Guards as an officer & served as aide-de-camp (general dogsbody) to a General. Worked as an arms dealer & in the property market before becoming an MP. Proved to have lied about his educational qualifications (good training for a politician) & constantly undermined John Major during his time as leader. Took over as leader briefly, stepping down after a vote of no-confidence by his own party. Described Israel as "a shining beacon of democracy in the Middle East" & continues to live in a dream world to this day.
Working class background - don't think so comrade!

Posted 3 April 2013
mph
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mph
Fortunate really that the guy who asked the question actually receives £156 per week I suppose!
Posted 3 April 2013
stolenfaces
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mph
Fortunate really that the guy who asked the question actually receives £156 per week I suppose!
Hardly relevant. It was £53 a week that Duncan smith said he could live on. (Like a under 25 js) Funny to see council tenants with a 'spare room' being taxed whist the queen who has at least 3 spare homes paid for by the state, gets a £5 million additional handout.
Posted 3 April 2013
Edited by stolenfaces 3 April 2013
mph
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mph
stolenfaces

Hardly relevant.

surprise

Posted 3 April 2013
photo_phil
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photo_phil
stolenfaces
Hardly relevant. It was £53 a week that Duncan smith said he could live on. (Like a under 25 js) Funny to see council tenants with a 'spare room' being taxed whist the queen who has at least 3 spare homes paid for by the state, gets a £5 million additional handout.
That'll be council tenants claiming housing benefit NOT those council tenants who work to pay their rent. Why should those in council houses have access to houses bigger than they need while those claiming housing benefit in private rented property only be allowed to claim for a house the size they need, they don't get funding for spare rooms. The Queen, like the rest if us can have as many rooms as we want as long as we pay for them.
Posted 3 April 2013
mph
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mph
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That'll be council tenants claiming housing benefit NOT those council tenants who work to pay their rent. Why should those in council houses have access to houses bigger than they need while those claiming housing benefit in private rented property only be allowed to claim for a house the size they need, they don't get funding for spare rooms. The Queen, like the rest if us can have as many rooms as we want as long as we pay for them.


Despite my supposed right of Genghis Khan views, I do actually have some sympathy for people who have lived in houses for many years having to uproot - especially if there isn't appropriate accommodation in the immediate locale. I think the policy, whilst sensible in principle, is ill thought out as there does not seem to be a surfeit of smaller accommodation in any case.

I would like local authorities to have the power to use their discretion in applying the measure - though I fear that too would be a disaster!
Posted 3 April 2013
Edited by mph 3 April 2013
OldMaster
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"His parents were a Group Captain & a professional ballerina, he joined the Scots Guards as an officer & served as aide-de-camp (general dogsbody) to a General. Worked as an arms dealer & in the property market before becoming an MP. Proved to have lied about his educational qualifications (good training for a politician) & constantly undermined John Major during his time as leader. Took over as leader briefly, stepping down after a vote of no-confidence by his own party. Described Israel as "a shining beacon of democracy in the Middle East" & continues to live in a dream world to this day. Working class background - don't think so comrade!" +1 Not to forget he was also just about as far right in the tory party as you could get...this is just another callous attempt to take from the less well off and true to tory policy, keep the wealthy rich. His policies, apart from being short sighted and rushed hit the wrong people entirely particularly when you take into account the number of working who require some benefits who will be losing out. Where do we see any evidence of the reassurances that "work will pay" and no one in work will be worse off than those on benefits? Lies, lies and more lies. So no change there then. They would do better to actually make some effort to kick start the economy with some real investment. The damage they are about to do to the NHS is another topic entirely but don't start whining about it when it has been effectively privatised, creating a few more millionaires in the process...must protect the city, banks, directors and shareholders and the rest of us will pay for it. Just not "funny" any more
Posted 3 April 2013
PeterH
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photo_phil

Why should those in council houses have access to houses bigger than they need while those claiming housing benefit in private rented property only be allowed to claim for a house the size they need, they don't get funding for spare rooms.  


Indeed, local radio stated before christmas that 46% of 4,5 and 6 bedroom council houses in Rotherham had one occupant. Sorry, but it's not up to the taxpayer to provide someone with five spare rooms. You're family has grown up and gone, you don't need a house that big, move on and let a family who does need the space move in.
Posted 3 April 2013
photo_phil
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photo_phil
My sister lives in a council house and she's lucky enough to earn enough that she doesn't need help with her rent as she works every hour going to save for a deposit for her own place. Her neighbors either side have a three bedroom house paid for by benefits and both have only one person living there.

There's nothing wrong with having Right Wing views just the same as there's nothing wrong with having Left Wing views, it's the extremity of the views that causes the problems.

I for one don't get jealous or moan about other people's wealth or privilege.........I have better things to do, like earn my own money and provide for my own family and have the best standard of living we can afford.

Posted 3 April 2013
PeterH
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I have better things to do, like earn my own money and provide for my own family and have the best standard of living we can afford.


Perhaps you could have a better standard of living if you weren't working to subsidise the housing costs of the likes of Bob Crow, who earns £150k a year but thinks you should pay for his house.
Posted 3 April 2013
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