Hello, confidential help required

Hello, confidential help required

14 posts
2 March 2013
Bradders
Photographer
Bradders
hello, I should say at the start that I am a tog not a mua.

I am redesigning my boudoir service and taking it upmarket (hopefully not killing it in the process). I have previously charged very little and allowed them to choose whether they pay extra for a mua but from now on it will be included in the standard package. would any of you (especially if you are in the Reading area) mind giving me a guide price for this type of work, confidentially of course. The new style of shoot will, I think, take about four hours

Thanks for your help

Mark

Posted 2 March 2013
Maloby
Photographer
Maloby
Bradders

I think, take about four hours


Movies can be criticised for being good but too long (and lately I have heard strong criticism of wedding photographers hogging the special day). I don’t know the type of shoot you are planning but it better be worth it for someone to hang about for 4 hours. That is unless hair and makeup are taking two hours? Well not everyone is Ivory Flame I suppose!
Posted 2 March 2013
Edited by Maloby 2 March 2013
Bradders
Photographer
Bradders
It's boudoir so hair and makeup is an ongoing part of changing the look with different outfits during the shoot. Clearly it is not a wedding. I get the feeling you are criticising me but I don't know why, no, not everyone is Ivory Flame, what's your point?

Posted 2 March 2013
Maloby
Photographer
Maloby
Bradders

It's boudoir so hair and makeup is an ongoing part of changing the look with different outfits during the shoot. Clearly it is not a wedding. I get the feeling you are criticising me but I don't know why, no, not everyone is Ivory Flame, what's your point?


I’m not criticising you I’m just saying that this must be a top grade product in all respects to last so long. Or you have access to a grand hotel or house. Or you’re going to pamper them to a great degree. In your original post you did not mention hair – is the MUA doing this as well as?

For someone to tell you the current price they need to know what the offer is.
  1. Location
  2. Up to X set changes
  3. Up to X outfit changes
  4. Food/drink provided
  5. MUA + Hair or MUA does hair
  6. Is it done as a group i.e. shooting multiple clients with one MUA (which would devalue the product)
  7. Number of edited shots expected to be produced
There is a great range in the expense in producing and quality of this type of work. But sometimes it is the overall experience that sells the job and my only worry is that 4 hours is a long time.

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My point regarding Ivory Flame is she would not have taken 4 hours to get hair/makeup ready and posed. Perhaps the clients you’re thinking of require a lot more work and set up time.
Posted 2 March 2013
Edited by Maloby 2 March 2013
magpie1
Photographer
magpie1
Your profile describes you as experienced professional photographer with Boudoir as a speciality, just wonder why you need to ask this question? Don't be surprised if you are not inundated with replies from any professional photographer in a 100 mile radius.

Posted 2 March 2013
xtiggerx
Photographer
xtiggerx
Sorry, am i missing the point here, The 'op' mailed this on the MUA forum part and MUA general chat,,, his question...wrongly or rightly composed and written was aimed at MUA'S which is why he put it in the MUA forum section...and not the photographer general chat...So why have all the replies been from Photographers??? People bored today?

Posted 2 March 2013
orsoncarter
Photographer
orsoncarter
xtiggerx

Sorry, am i missing the point here, The 'op' mailed this on the MUA forum part and MUA general chat,,, his question...wrongly or rightly composed and written was aimed at MUA'S which is why he put it in the MUA forum section...and not the photographer general chat...So why have all the replies been from Photographers??? People bored today?


+1

Posted 2 March 2013
Maloby
Photographer
Maloby
xtiggerx

Sorry, am i missing the point here, The 'op' mailed this on the MUA forum part and MUA general chat,,, his question...wrongly or rightly composed and written was aimed at MUA'S which is why he put it in the MUA forum section...and not the photographer general chat...So why have all the replies been from Photographers??? People bored today?


My bad, sorry. I opened this post from the front page and assumed it was in a photographer section regarding the total package price including MUA.
Posted 2 March 2013
Fisherface
Make Up Artist
Fisherface
Hi Bradders,

I do this type of thing for local studios.

Depending on exactly how far I have to travel, I generally charge  £40 to go along and do hair and make up.  This takes no longer than an hour.  I can stay and assist/change looks if required for an extra charge of usually £10 per hour....depending on the complexity of the styling.  Often clients prefer a female to be present during the shoot to help with posing ideas, but not always.

I think 2 hours shooting time is generally a good guide line as people get tired posing for much longer, particularly if they're not used to it and especially if make up time has taken up to an hour.

Hope this helps a bit. 
Posted 2 March 2013
Edited by Fisherface 2 March 2013
cziiki
Photographer
cziiki
might get a more sensible response by putting out casting calls for Muas in this and other sites maybe? there are many mua folks who don't join model portfolio sites. I guess the website "indeed" is still around. and fb is a resource source too surprisingly.

Posted 3 March 2013
Edited by cziiki 3 March 2013
OldMaster
Photographer
OldMaster
I am a bit confused! You have 4 photos on your profile of 2 of the better models on PS.
What market are you trying to reach with these....where are examples of work you have done with your customer base?

Are you trying to appeal to models already on here or members of the public...in which case, good luck!

Posted 3 March 2013
OldMaster
Photographer
OldMaster
Sorry, didn't see mua chat bit....on my crap phone!

Posted 3 March 2013
xtiggerx
Photographer
xtiggerx
Re.Magpie1......" Don't be surprised if you are not inundated with replies from any professional photographer in a 100 mile radius."........Why should he get replies from photographers when he is asking a question on a MUA FORUM........
The poor OP has even had his work commented about by another photographer,when his question was again base for MUA's..
Makes me feel very negative to start up any forum post incase im picked to bits by any bored or illiterate photographer.....
Im Glad Mark has finally got a reply from a actual MUA,but seems like PS isnt the right website to enquire about this subject.Sorry Mark im going on a bit, Good luck with your search for a MUA & your transformation of your sets.

Posted 3 March 2013
Fisherface
Make Up Artist
Fisherface
xtiggerx

Re.Magpie1......" Don't be surprised if you are not inundated with replies from any professional photographer in a 100 mile radius."........Why should he get replies from photographers when he is asking a question on a MUA FORUM........ The poor OP has even had his work commented about by another photographer,when his question was again base for MUA's.. Makes me feel very negative to start up any forum post incase im picked to bits by any bored or illiterate photographer..... Im Glad Mark has finally got a reply from a actual MUA,but seems like PS isnt the right website to enquire about this subject.Sorry Mark im going on a bit, Good luck with your search for a MUA & your transformation of your sets.


My thoughts exactly!  He did not ask for critique and he did not want to put up a casting call!  He asked a simple question to MUA's.  Some of you have too much time on your hands!

Posted 3 March 2013
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