Question to models ....

Question to models ....

22 posts
6 Feb 2013
Martin_Newton_Photography
Photographer
Martin_Newto..

This may sound a bit strange, but as a model you do the work at xxx amount per hour, but then if i was to say i wanted to use them for publication in magazines, books etc would your rates then change?

Posted 6 Feb 2013
Depends entirely on what it was. If it was for a prestigious magazine, a tear from which would look good in my portfolio, I'd probably reduce my rates. (Only for guaranteed publication though, none of this "I'll submit it and I really hope it'll be published please work for free" bull.) If it was for a well-financed campaign that the client was expecting to profit greatly from, I'd probably ask for a bit more. I've never been booked for something like that though and I probably never will be, so that's all a bit hypothetical.
Posted 6 Feb 2013
A_MPhotography

This may sound a bit strange, but as a model you do the work at xxx amount per hour, but then if i was to say i wanted to use them for publication in magazines, books etc would your rates then change?



Probably not, but its possible.

I like photographers to be honest with me about what they intend to do with the pictures, but its a trust system.
Posted 6 Feb 2013
To be honest i much prefer photographers to give me a rate and a shoot description as each shoot is so individual and that way I can decide whether I think its a fair budget
HOWEVER I do have set rates and I do expect them to be respected - Iv had all the excuses in the book including - can you lower your rates because I want a new kitchen lol so I do have to be quite strict
I do mix and match i.e. I don't charge 4 hours of US Mag if its fashion through to that id charge an huor of each level, and I do try to be fair when costing up a job but I do often do it based on each individual job specification

I agree with JadedRed I like people to be honest but they often aren't

Posted 6 Feb 2013
Edited by BlueSapphire 6 Feb 2013
Claypaws
Photographer
Claypaws
BlueSapphire
To be honest i much prefer photographers to give me a rate and a shoot description as each shoot is so individual and that way I can decide whether I think its a fair budget
+1 That is exactly what I do for publication and the rate is for the shoot, not per hour.
Posted 6 Feb 2013
Hugh
Photographer
Hugh
I pay the same amount per hour whatever I'm shooting, and wherever it's going.

All the models I shoot with seem to work that way as well.

I wouldn't pay extra for a model release either - that game died long ago.

Posted 6 Feb 2013
Edited by Hugh 6 Feb 2013
Depends on the assignment. I would expect a buy out fee from a huge client; but that's usually the company who pay, not the photographer. For example, I know an agency model who was booked for M&S; It was £400 per hour, and then if the images were used, £25,000 buy out for 5 years. However, I am not an agency model, so I'm sure I'll never have to worry about that
Posted 6 Feb 2013
diipii
Photographer
diipii
Wrong way round.
As the photographer hiring a model you set the rate and you own the copyright.


Posted 7 Feb 2013
ChrisD
Photographer
ChrisD
A_MPhotography

This may sound a bit strange, but as a model you do the work at xxx amount per hour, but then if i was to say i wanted to use them for publication in magazines, books etc would your rates then change?



If the photographer is doing the hiring and shooting for a client ( their employer ) the photographer has a fee in mind ( or should do ) regardless of the form of publication, and that dictates the rate, not the model.

Of course the model does have every right to refuse the payment on offer from their prospective employer ( the photographer )

They can also ask for whatever pecuniary reward they so wish, but in doing so may risk losing a job of work.

Just sayin' 
Posted 7 Feb 2013
marklawrence
Photographer
marklawrence
I have all my models sign a model release form, which was drawn up by a solicitor. Its basic, but works. I always without exception talk to my models about the shoot, what its for. I also talk to my clients about the shoot and ask about publication where its going, how many copies if its a magazine etc etc. That way I can control costs for myself and the model/s. I do try and get the best terms possible for the models as we are a team when we work together...hope that helps, if you want the release form just email me...mark

Posted 7 Feb 2013
I don't change my fees - up or down. I couldn't really give a hoot what the photographer is getting paid, I have a rate I'm happy with if a company or photographer cannot afford to book me then I'm sure somebody else will come along and do it cheaper or for "the exposure/experience" which is fair enough. I have noticed though some models charge more for signing releases and whatnot though.
Posted 7 Feb 2013
diipii
Wrong way round. As the photographer hiring a model you set the rate and you own the copyright.
+1 all rates should be on a mutual understanding and agreement. i could easily turn round and say well no im not working for that! but where would it get me? if i knew the images were going to be published, i would drop my rates a bit as its more exposure for myself and the photographer. its makes sense really...you scratch my back and all that
Posted 30 March 2013
Les
Photographer
Les
Model Release forms- Not a legal requirement in this country, that said I do get asked for a Release form on the odd occassion

I do however find that some models Ive worked with, fail to understand basic copyright law, ie- I took the photograph it belongs to me, which is, Im afraid the LAW,so maybe an contract clearly defining this would be an assett to all concerned

Les

Ps Mark, you have PM fella

Posted 17 April 2013
Edited by Les 17 April 2013
Honesty
Model
Honesty

I tend to find published jobs usually come with set rates, briefs and schedules. If I don't like the rates I don't agree to the work. My rates are tailored to some extent with regards to use. Charity, amateur practice, just for the sake of it work i charge less. The more my image is used, the more I would expect. I think some of you girls have it backwards. If a magazine is paying you its because your imput will make them money. Usually lots of it. Not asking a fair price is madness.


Posted 8 May 2013
A_MPhotography
This may sound a bit strange, but as a model you do the work at xxx amount per hour, but then if i was to say i wanted to use them for publication in magazines, books etc would your rates then change?
Depends what levels are required ... If its for publication I usually add a little bit on from my usual rates
Posted 8 May 2013
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