XP to Windows 8 - dont do it!

XP to Windows 8 - dont do it!

26 posts
23 Dec 2012
Pixel_Sensation
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Pixel_Sensation
So, i took advantage of windows 8 being only £25. I ran diagnostics, all was fine apart from a couple of programes which i was fine with.
I downloaded and installed to find all my programmes gone, all my emails, settings the bloody lot!!!
Im now installing programmes again.
The biggest problem is my emails that have gone, and my video/sound drivers have gone.
I run 2 monitors, not anymore as they have defaulted to 1 monitor with the same basic screen size - not what it actually is or was.
to say im pi$$ed off is an understatement.

Plus there was no warning this would happen...

Going to be a long few days.
So if your planning on upgrading, DONT.
It also looks the most confussing operating system yet. Half trying to be a tablet, half windows XP/7 etc. But its not made its mind up yet.

Should have stayed with my MAC - they just work...
Posted 23 Dec 2012
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
It depends what you mean by warning, it seems pretty clear to me that it says you can't 'upgrade' from Xp, you have to do an install.
If you are using an imap mail server it will still be on the server, you just need to re-connect to it.

If you read the wizard that gives you the £25 deal I can't see how you could have expected anything else.
Microsoft seem to be trying to catch up with apple by making the w7 -> w8 like a mac upgrade, but XP is just too old.

Posted 23 Dec 2012
Edited by stolenfaces 23 Dec 2012
StreetModel
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StreetModel
Firstly, who in their right mind does any kind of upgrade of an OS without backing up important documents (like emails etc) before they begin? Even the most simple upgrade *can* fail and if the worst happens, at least you have the backups that you take regularly to fall back on...?

Secondly, a machine running XP is likely to be anything from 5-10 years old and is probably unlikely to run Windows 7 or 8 with any speed without upgrades to RAM and even CPU - XP will work in 256Mb (I have seen it on a machine with 128Mb and work, but it was mighty slow). Windows 8 likes 2Gb for the OS alone!

Thirdly, you take a 5-10 year old Mac and try to put the latest iteration of MacOs 10 on it and see how far you get!

I have built several Windows 8 machines and upgraded a few to 8 as well, and apart from a few apps needing 'compatibility mode' and having to show people where the 'shut-down' option is, I have had no issues whatsoever.
Posted 24 Dec 2012
anthonyh
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anthonyh
Since Macs now work on Intel chips software written for the earlier powermacs obviously won't work...in most instances anyway.

It is a real pity Macs are silly expensive compared to PCs...because if they were of a similar price there would be such an exodus of users from PCs to Macs....
Posted 24 Dec 2012
Edited by anthonyh 23 Dec 2012
CSD_Images
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CSD_Images
Put it another way, businesses wouldn't touch Apple with a barge pole due to their policy of forced obsolescence. They also don't have any Domain wide management tools akin to Active Directory. In fact there's nothing that at all in any eco-system hence why MS will dominate in business. Home entertainment is going to shift more towards media entertainment/game systems. Next year is going to be the first that we will see a major shift away from traditional systems.

As to XP -> Win 8. Back up and do a clean install, it's that simple there is no direct upgrade path to Win 8. Same with Vista it's only a partial in place upgrade. The best 'upgrade' experience comes from Win 7->8 as both are a generation apart. You will need new drivers for your OS as it's got a new driver model. You will need to re-learn how to use Windows. Windows 8 does support dual monitors as I'm doing it here. Whilst Modern UI doesn't, desktop certainly does. Remember Modern UI was designed as a start menu replacement and also for single screen environments.

To put it bluntly you jumped before looking, doing some research would have shown you there would be problems and you should have come up with a simple migration plan. All the information above you found issues with can be found on sites such as ArsTechnica or WinSuperSite. The fact you don't have a back up solution means you'll have to do that now. You don't want to be caught out twice?

OS X is going down this route as well, it'll be interesting to see how they merge iOS and OS X. Both Apple and Microsoft have the same strategy, the merging of desktop and mobile. They just have gone separate paths to get there.

Posted 24 Dec 2012
mph
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mph
StreetModel
Firstly, who in their right mind does any kind of upgrade of an OS without backing up important documents (like emails etc) before they begin?
Who in their right mind does not have at least all but the most recent documents backed up?
Posted 24 Dec 2012
Pixel_Sensation
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Pixel_Sensation
thanks for your support! It was more a warning to others and a 'don't do what i did'. Yes i did BACK everything up... in 2 locations. Yes i ran the diagnostics tool. The problem was it gave a couple of warnings of compatibility and then 'buy here'. I installed, as there was no indication it would delete stuff and it would not work. the pain is having to go and reinstall everything and find compatible drivers. I do again have it backed up but its a pain. and my machine is powerful and less than 5 years old, i just didn't like vista. but thanks again for your 'advice', merry Christmas and all that
Posted 24 Dec 2012
psn
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psn
Everyone's suddenly an expert eh...typical Purestorn forum responses....

Posted 24 Dec 2012
pmeswani
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pmeswani
CSD_Images
Put it another way, businesses wouldn't touch Apple with a barge pole due to their policy of forced obsolescence.
Gosh. How little you know of the Media business environment. I have worked in a few environments where Macs are king. There is a tool called Casper that looks after the management of Macs, and yes, Macs can authenticate against Active Directory. Have a look at http://www.jamfsoftware.com/products/casper-suite/. Am I a fan of the Macs? No. I prefer to use a PC where I can, but I do have a Mac Laptop which is more reliable than any of my previous Windows Laptops have ever been.
Posted 24 Dec 2012
StreetModel
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StreetModel
psn

Everyone's suddenly an expert eh...typical Purestorn forum responses....


Well, I don't know about the others, but I am a certified Microsoft engineer with 28 MCP exams and more computer certifications than I can remember.
Posted 24 Dec 2012
mph
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mph
[qt][author]StreetModel[/author] Well, I don't know about the others, but I am a certified Microsoft engineer with 28 MCP exams and more computer certifications than I can remember.[/qt] I'm not - just an idiot who knows so little I am very careful. My approach is a: never upgrade an OS on a running machine b: never be an early adopter of a new anything! c: have a new computer built if I do want to change OS c: when I have a new computer built - keep the old one running until I have got thr new one set up to my satisfaction
Posted 24 Dec 2012
ph_oto
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ph_oto
mph

StreetModel
Well, I don't know about the others, but I am a certified Microsoft engineer with 28 MCP exams and more computer certifications than I can remember.
I'm not - just an idiot who knows so little I am very careful. My approach is a: never upgrade an OS on a running machine b: never be an early adopter of a new anything! c: have a new computer built if I do want to change OS c: when I have a new computer built - keep the old one running until I have got thr new one set up to my satisfaction


++++++me too,  other than I usually assemble my PC's myself.cheeky

Posted 24 Dec 2012
seanb
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seanb
I've just gone from Windows 7 to 8 and it was pretty seamless. I chose to do a fresh install, as my old Windows installation had accumulated a lot of cruft, and it probably took about three or four hours to get everything back the way I'm used to. I figured that since my Windows 7 setup was due a reinstall anyway, I might as well give 8 a try and go back to 7 if I didn't get on with it.

Still getting used to the new start options, and I do keep hitting the leftmost taskbar icon expecting it to be the start menu, but for now I'm giving the new way a proper trial before I consider third party start menu replacements. I've yet to find anything that doesn't work. 

Had I stll been on XP, I'd have taken a different approach, and maybe tried to set up a dual boot partition first rather than risk a big upgrade in place.
Posted 24 Dec 2012
RedChecker
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RedChecker
mph
My approach is a: never upgrade an OS on a running machine b: never be an early adopter of a new anything! c: have a new computer built if I do want to change OS c: when I have a new computer built - keep the old one running until I have got thr new one set up to my satisfaction
+1
Posted 24 Dec 2012
Edited by RedChecker 24 Dec 2012
modjo30
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modjo30
You should always do a fresh install of any OS, they slow down over time anyway and i personally reinstall once a year to keep it running smooth. From the Microsoft Windows 8 Upgrade site. Upgrading from … What you can keep Windows 7 Apps, Windows settings, and personal files Windows Vista Windows settings and personal files Windows XP Personal files You were never going to keep your installed programs anyway
Posted 24 Dec 2012
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