how did you change from tf to career?

how did you change from tf to career?

13 posts
10 Oct 2012
Hi
Just trying to pick up tips on how you made the transition from doing modelling mainly tf to gain a good port and expirience to taking on mainly paid work and making it into a career?
Id like to try and branch out but uncertain of how to really
I know upgrading will help and being agency represented-i have been accepted by an agency just waiting on paperwork
I think part of me is worrying I wouldnt make it in paid aspect nervous people wouldnt book me paid!
But yes any tips or advice apreciated
I wouldnt make the transition until next year due to pregnancy when I feel me and baby are ready for me to start back
Thank you

Posted 10 Oct 2012
You don't need an agency Hun, I find the majority of my work myself Make a name for yourself... Social media, twitter etc and work will start coming to you Put out your own casting calls and do home shoots if you can Work with amatuers and professionals Hope this helps a little Any questions just mail me xx
Posted 10 Oct 2012
Work hard.
Self promote.
Know your niche.
99% of models will have another source of income in addition to what they earn as models so don't rely solely on it.
Personally, I wouldn't bother paying to be on sites like this. Might be different for you as we shoot different genres, but it wouldn't be worth my while as most of the offers I get on here for paid work I end up refusing as unsuitable/beyond my levels.

Posted 11 Oct 2012
katiesoze
Photographer
katiesoze
Get a reputation for being reliable is good. I got a lot of work from saying - if you ever have a no show I can work at short notice. Tf with the right people and the rest will want to pay you. It's all reputation
Posted 11 Oct 2012
WITH MAGIC.

No, seriously, when people who wouldn't benefit my portfolio started messaging me for shoots I replied with rates. Now most people who message me expect to pay me. I wouldn't call it a "career" though, more "part time student job".

You won't arbitrarily decide when you're going to start accepting paid work though; deciding you want paid work is not the same as actually getting it. Make sure your rates are competitive for your genres and look. And it's a good idea to keep doing the occasional trade shoot to try new genres, get creative, improve your skills, and in order to have strong portfolio updates on a regular basis.

Posted 11 Oct 2012
I found that the more I was willing to take my clothes off, the more money people were willing to pay me.

Hope this helps!

Posted 11 Oct 2012
mgphotomedia
Photographer
mgphotomedia
Models tend to progress faster than photographers. So every photographer you TF with now is likely to be one that won't pay you in the future. And if they're all on your doorstep you'll have to look further afield for paid work.

It's almost as if the more TF you do the harder it becomes to make that break into paid work!
Posted 11 Oct 2012
Edited by mgphotomedia 11 Oct 2012
Jack_Russell
Photographer
Jack_Russell
mgphotomedia

It's almost as if the more TF you do the harder it becomes to make that break into paid work!


Sorry, I disagree... I think TF with the RIGHT photographers will get you paid work immediately.  (Just speaking from my experience)
Posted 11 Oct 2012
mgphotomedia
Photographer
mgphotomedia
Jack_Russell

Sorry, I disagree... I think TF with the RIGHT photographers will get you paid work immediately.  (Just speaking from my experience)


My argument was regarding the VOLUME of TF. The point about the RIGHT photographer had already been made earlier in the thread and since I agree with it, at least in principle, felt no need to comment further about it.

However in practical terms the RIGHT photographer is hard to identify - particularly for new/relatively new models. Even harder for them to obtain a shoot with them due to lack of funds etc.

So, unless someone's prepared to say to a model I think so-and-so is the right photographer for you, it doesn't really help them very much. Added to that it's unlikely that even you and I would agree about who the RIGHT photographer is for a particular model let alone everyone else.
Posted 11 Oct 2012
Edited by mgphotomedia 11 Oct 2012
mgphotomedia

Models tend to progress faster than photographers. So every photographer you TF with now is likely to be one that won't pay you in the future. And if they're all on your doorstep you'll have to look further afield for paid work.

It's almost as if the more TF you do the harder it becomes to make that break into paid work!


+1

Posted 11 Oct 2012
I only do TF with certian photographers. They are the ones who taught me, so it's a way of saying thanks but i get on really well with them and there photos are amazing... So it's never actually work when doing TF with them. It's true the more you take your clothes off and the higher the levels the more people will pay, it's sad when you think of it like that, but then the internet has killed all the big money shoots Being able to do home shoots helps a lot, or doing cheaper rates with a studio close to you. Twitter and Facebook are BIG business these days, exposure is a must. Putting up casting calls helps as it shows your serious and if you can travel then it's another plus. It's quiet easy when you put your mind to it Good Luck
Posted 11 Oct 2012
thank you all for advice
Posted 11 Oct 2012
mgphotomedia
Models tend to progress faster than photographers. So every photographer you TF with now is likely to be one that won't pay you in the future. And if they're all on your doorstep you'll have to look further afield for paid work. It's almost as if the more TF you do the harder it becomes to make that break into paid work!
This. I've not really had the issue of refusing to TF and sending rates to people i've worked with, as i've generally either agreed to keep TF-ing because i love their work, or they haven't asked because they won't pay anyone, not even a supermodel if they ever had the chance to book one. I think some people just don't pay because its a hobby. Others are in a position to pay and will do so. Thats just how it is. That said, if you get a reputation for taking EVERY TF offer you get, no-one will offer you pay because they may as well just ask for TF and save themselves a few bob knowing you'll accept their offer. Moral of the story - be selective.
Posted 11 Oct 2012
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