What's with the low rates?

What's with the low rates?

129 posts
25 June 2012
I keep seeing people putting up casting for models to shoot with them to nude or topless for like £20-£25 per hour.

My rates are £35 per hour for nude and £30 for topless and unless it was for a particularly good photographer, I just wouldn't accept anything less.

Thoughts on this? Am I crazy?

Posted 25 June 2012
Socialdisaster
Photographer
Socialdisast..
You are worth what you think you are worth. Whether or not anyone else agrees with you, or will pay, is a different topic that I would assume is governed by many different market factors.

Posted 25 June 2012
ratisha_photography
Photographer
ratisha_phot..
£20 to £25 is average

in nude if your good like ivoryflame you could get alot more (up to £55 i think) but unless you have a great reputation a perfect body for art nude or a great usp like being a well trained ballet dancer than £25 is right

in glamour it depends again good well published hard working models with great bodies again like jo louise and emma kate dawson can charge higher up to about £50

on average adult models only get £50 and ive seen quite a few offering discounts of £25

but its how much you skills and reputation are worth not how nude you are

ratisha

Posted 25 June 2012
istobie
Photographer
istobie
Evelyn_Knight
I keep seeing people putting up casting for models to shoot with them to nude or topless for like £20-£25 per hour. My rates are £35 per hour for nude and £30 for topless and unless it was for a particularly good photographer, I just wouldn't accept anything less. Thoughts on this? Am I crazy?
What kind of level of work are you getting at your rates ? If you're busy, question answered. If you're not getting enough work, lower your rates. If you're too busy, put your rates up a bit. Rates have fallen however from a few years ago.
Posted 25 June 2012
ColinPierce
Photographer
ColinPierce
At the end of the day it is the same as any other product. It is all down to market forces. If modelling is the career path you have chosen then you want to earn money at it. If you charge £35 for nude shoots and get sufficient work charging that then good for you and obviously the market has decided you are worth that. I personally usually pay only £25 to £30 for a nude model. It always baffles me really why models make a distinction between clothed and nude though. If you are willing to pose nude then why have the attitude of I will charge £20 for fashion but not take my clothes of for anything less than £35? If you are a model, then you are a model full stop. If you want to charge £35 then charge it as a flat rate for all genres. Can you imaging a photographer charging more UNLESS you take your clothes off.

Posted 25 June 2012
PeterH
Photographer
PeterH
ColinPierce

 It always baffles me really why models make a distinction between clothed and nude though. If you are willing to pose nude then why have the attitude of I will charge £20 for fashion but not take my clothes of for anything less than £35? If you are a model, then you are a model full stop. If you want to charge £35 then charge it as a flat rate for all genres.


That's fine in theory and the way it should be. In practise, a model would be ripped to pieces in the forums for asking  £35/hr for clothed shoots.
Posted 25 June 2012
orsoncarter
Photographer
orsoncarter
Evelyn_Knight

I keep seeing people putting up casting for models to shoot with them to nude or topless for like £20-£25 per hour. My rates are £35 per hour for nude and £30 for topless and unless it was for a particularly good photographer, I just wouldn't accept anything less. Thoughts on this? Am I crazy?


Do what works for you and leave other people to do what works for them. 
Posted 25 June 2012
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
ColinPierce

At the end of the day it is the same as any other product. It is all down to market forces. If modelling is the career path you have chosen then you want to earn money at it. If you charge £35 for nude shoots and get sufficient work charging that then good for you and obviously the market has decided you are worth that. I personally usually pay only £25 to £30 for a nude model. It always baffles me really why models make a distinction between clothed and nude though. If you are willing to pose nude then why have the attitude of I will charge £20 for fashion but not take my clothes of for anything less than £35? If you are a model, then you are a model full stop. If you want to charge £35 then charge it as a flat rate for all genres. Can you imaging a photographer charging more UNLESS you take your clothes off.


Quite!
Boobs and bums are worth more than a face, experience or ability.  I suppose that isn't  models' faults, they just take advantage of it, when really, it is the photographers'  or publishers' faults as they have proven over the years that they are happy to pay more money for a girl to get her clothes off. 

Posted 25 June 2012
ratisha_photography
Photographer
ratisha_phot..
to be fair as pointed out in another thread the other day models who take there clothes of are taking a much bigger risk in the long run (an inability to persue many careers) that should dictate that nude IS worth more than clothed as it poses a great reduction on the models options in life
ratisha

Posted 25 June 2012
IainT
Photographer
IainT
The internet is a funny place. Its only on sites like these where you get paid more depending on the level of nakedness. In the real world models get paid more for clothed work than most adult models on here make. If you speak to the (very) few models on here who work in both sectors and who can/will cross the genre's, they will tell you their best paid jobs have always been fully clothed £25 is a low rate if you are getting booked for 2/3 hours and you have to travel 2 hours each way, but a good rate if you are getting booked for 6 hours ten mins down the road. Its about flexibility and common sense really.
Posted 25 June 2012
IainT
Photographer
IainT
ratisha_photography
to be fair as pointed out in another thread the other day models who take there clothes of are taking a much bigger risk in the long run (an inability to persue many careers) that should dictate that nude IS worth more than clothed as it poses a great reduction on the models options in life ratisha
Its only worth more on the internet and only worth more to "average" models. The better models will be able to get the same rate clothed or nude. Adult is a different thing obviously, but very few adult models are of a standard to regularly sustain good rates.
Posted 25 June 2012
rootofsilence
Photographer
rootofsilenc..
There's a ****ing recession on!!!

Or hadn't you noticed?

Posted 25 June 2012
JEBPhotography
Photographer
JEBPhotograp..
IainT

The internet is a funny place. Its only on sites like these where you get paid more depending on the level of nakedness. In the real world models get paid more for clothed work than most adult models on here make. If you speak to the (very) few models on here who work in both sectors and who can/will cross the genre's, they will tell you their best paid jobs have always been fully clothed £25 is a low rate if you are getting booked for 2/3 hours and you have to travel 2 hours each way, but a good rate if you are getting booked for 6 hours ten mins down the road. Its about flexibility and common sense really.


Totally cheeky
Posted 25 June 2012
MattButlerPhoto
Photographer
MattButlerPh..
Ian t is spot on as per normal. its a cattle market. you get what you can, when you can. you talk about rates but then your saying models shouldnt get naked for tfcd?

id say concentrate on your own bank balance and let others concentrate on theirs.

Posted 25 June 2012
ColinPierce
Photographer
ColinPierce
I've decided to charge more to shoot naked next time, your views please. Being paid to shoot with my clothes on would be a novelty
Posted 25 June 2012
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