Why doesn't Purestorm differentiate between male and female models?

Why doesn't Purestorm differentiate between male and female models?

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12 May 2012
AlLong
Model
AlLong
As a male model, I find it incredibly difficult to find castings on here, as they're all for 'models', meaning female models. I just don't understand why the site allows male models to make a profile if they seem to have a bias towards female models.

I'm not trying to criticise or anything, I just wonder what others think, or why Purestorm seems to only really cater for female models?


AlLong

Why doesn't Purestorm differentiate between male and female models?

 

Moderator Comment:
Purestorm does differentiate - Models may specify their gender and the Seach facility can be gender specific.
Posted 12 May 2012
Edited by WebModerator 12 May 2012
jetbrown
Photographer
jetbrown
Hi Alex

Unfortunately this is a fact of most modelling sites.

There are many photographers that prefer to only shoot female models, for their own personal reasons.

However there are a lot of us that are more interested in a concept than just "boobs n ass".

It just means that as a guy you have to work harder to find the photographers who are happy to work with you.

My suggestion would be to come up with some interesting concepts and then create your casting calls, or maybe suggest them to photographers who you can see have previously worked with male models.

Posted 12 May 2012
gerryquiff
Photographer
gerryquiff
I don't think it's a bias, it's more to do with supply and demand........There's simply a larger demand for female models.

If they only catered for female models, they probably wouldn't activate any male model portfolios.

Best info I can give is to make contact with some of the other male models on here and ask for advice specific to males if you can't find it mentioned on the forums

Posted 12 May 2012
BrazenDivas
Photographer
BrazenDivas
AlLong
As a male model, I find it incredibly difficult to find castings on here, as they're all for 'models', meaning female models. I just don't understand why the site allows male models to make a profile if they seem to have a bias towards female models. I'm not trying to criticise or anything, I just wonder what others think, or why Purestorm seems to only really cater for female models?
The site not only allows male models to make a profile but also allows people to search for male or female models (or both). The fact is that the overwhelming demand is for female models - clothed or nude
Posted 12 May 2012
He's got a valid point, you know....gender specific casting calls. You can't do a casting call search for a gender specific model. But as pointed out, the site (and internet "industry") as a whole tends to have a bias so is only an issue every now and then.
Posted 13 May 2012
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
AlLong

As a male model, I find it incredibly difficult to find castings on here, as they're all for 'models', meaning female models. .
 


You maybe need to find some other way of finding photographers - not everyone who is active uses the casting system and I would hazard a guess that anyone looking for something more specific where there is likley to be only a few candidates, will use direct mail rather than the casting system,

I find the casting system a very blunt instrument and have only used it once and wished I had stuck to direct mail on that occasion.

I find the favorites function quite useful as I list models I would like to work with in the future, so its a great shortlisting function. It can be used by models for photographers - in your case, probably those whos work you admire, seem to shoot male models and are local to you. Maybe a direct approach [written specifically] is the way to go


Posted 13 May 2012
photo_phil
Photographer
photo_phil
I'll happily shoot male models if they are close enough, affordable and work to nude (same goes for most female models).
My problem is that there aren't many male models and those there are rarely post casting or meet the criteria.

Posted 14 May 2012
I think a casting specific option would be a useful tool, and it is used on other portfolio hosting sites, but other than that, those commenting above are quite right - the demand for male models is simply not as large as that for female models on the freelance market. With that said, there are plenty of photographers who will quite happily work with males on a TF basis on this site.

Posted 14 May 2012
As neither the Casting Calls nor Search facilities were originally designed to be gender-specific
it would take a fair bit of recoding to now incorporate this minority* request.
We have, however, flagged the issue for the attention of the Webmaster.



*Although about 1 in 8 successful registrations are from aspiring Male Models only around 1 in 30 Premium Model members are male.
This is possibly quite an accurate representation of the gender imbalance in modelling as a whole.
Posted 14 May 2012
Edited by WebModerator 14 May 2012
Buddygb
Photographer
Buddygb
There is a gender imbalance here but from my experience it is more pronounced because people are predominantly shooting glamour or nude. The last time I put up a casting call for a male model (clothed fashion) on this site I got one solitary response.

Over on MM, 2 of my next 7 currently booked shoots are with male models and I have another awaiting confirmation.


Posted 14 May 2012
AlLong
Model
AlLong
I understand that there's more of a demand for female models, my main issue with it is that the casting system doesn't cater for male models, and although it is a minority request as you say, that's still losing out on people who may want to use this site.

Posted 15 May 2012
AlLong

the casting system doesn't cater for male models
The system does cater for Male models - they can Cast in exactly the same way as Female models.

Adding more Search fields will not increase your chances of finding the limited amout of work out there
but if you use a close head and shoulders shot as your avatar you will jump out from the female models
on the list when photographers Search for models in your Region, further boosting your chances of selection.

Additionally if you select a Region an email is automatically sent out to photographers with Notifications set
so any Photographers in your part of the country interested in working with males should be aware of you.

It is also likely that if we introduced a gender filter many would switch off Male so your Casting Calls would then go completely unseen
Posted 15 May 2012
Edited by Love 15 May 2012
And then, on the flip side, when a male model is looking for castings put up by photographers they can switch off "female" and see the very very few that may well be up?
Posted 15 May 2012
diipii
Photographer
diipii
Most photographers are male.
They want to photograph women.

Most things in life are obvious and not up for a vote.

Posted 16 May 2012
darrenbrade
Photographer
darrenbrade
I've just joined but have been on Model Mayhem for some time. I agree Alex, the system SHOULD allow you to search castings for male models, it's a bit silly it doesn't! I do know some male models that don't use PS purely for this reason.

You can add me, a photographer, to the minority list of people that wish gender to be added to casting calls (it would still need the ability to post both).

Darren

Posted 31 May 2012
Edited by darrenbrade 31 May 2012
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