Non retun of contact mail

Non retun of contact mail

30 posts
30 May 2011
PHIL
Photographer
PHIL
I'm sure this has happened to more than myself, you see a model who you think fits the bill for an upcoming shoot so you send a mail and you fail to get a reply! You send a polite reminder about your mail and although you see the model concerned has read the mail, still no response. What can we do? Non replies to mail waste time and drag on until the photographer gives up. You are also tempted to contact other models for the same work meaning that eventually you will have to let down some of the models concerned. Is there anything we can do to help stop this....it seems that some models just don't want any work but still advertise on here!
Posted 30 May 2011
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111

This has been covered before but:

1) You contacted them, they have no obligation to return the mail
2) Young people, and lets face it, most models are young - no response means they are not interested
3) They could have had something happen in their lives that week and responding to individuals on Purestorm may not be top of their list
4) This is a portfolio hosting site with the option of arranging shoots if you so wish - there is no obligation
5) Maybe they didnt like your mail?

Could go on - you need to work out what it is you need to do differently to get a better response


 

Posted 30 May 2011
Lifescapes
Photographer
Lifescapes
This is after all human nature and if someone isn't particularly interested … well there's no clearer way of stating it.

So what would your solution be. Make replies compulsory? Just curious.

Posted 30 May 2011
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
Perhaps there could be a CBA button [cant be arsed] blush

the person receiving the mail can press that] and the email is automatically deleted and a beutifully written standard reply sent declining the generous offer
Posted 30 May 2011
dorrien
Photographer
dorrien
This i'm afraid is one of the joys of this and other sites,it's not just you but a common problem and i suggest you just move on,when i started a similar thread recently i was told a no reply is a reply,however i still maintain that a reply if only a "no thank you" is not only polite but more professional.

Posted 30 May 2011
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
TF has to be mutually beneficial to both parties. If it is your concept and you are desperately keen to shoot it with a particular model, then offer her a paid shoot. You will be virtually guaranteed a reply.

The better models are usually quite busy and don't have either the time or need to do a lot of TF shoots. If they are not interested and reply to your PM saying so, then you may then respond with another PM asking what concepts the model is interested in shooting on a TF basis and before long they have a TF stalker on their hands, constantly bugging them for free shoots. So, not replying may be an effective way of dealing with photographers who do not value the model highly enough to warrant a paid shoot, but do not have the capabilities to deliver any enhancement to their portfolio.
Posted 30 May 2011
Edited by tarmoo 30 May 2011
Beaumonty
Photographer
Beaumonty
Gerry99111
This has been covered before but: 1) You contacted them, they have no obligation to return the mail 2) Young people, and lets face it, most models are young - no response means they are not interested 3) They could have had something happen in their lives that week and responding to individuals on Purestorm may not be top of their list 4) This is a portfolio hosting site with the option of arranging shoots if you so wish - there is no obligation 5) Maybe they didnt like your mail? Could go on - you need to work out what it is you need to do differently to get a better response  
This subject comes up time after time after time and is usually annoying to folks who read the forum daily. This is easily the best, politest and most informative reply I've ever read, it's almost worth making it another of those 'Sticky' posts for all to read.
Posted 30 May 2011
mph
Photographer
mph
It would be a good feature - accepting it is a portfolio hosting site - if there were a "interested in being approached" field on the models' and photographers' profiles. Apart from that the only soilution to the "You are also tempted to contact other models for the same work meaning that eventually you will have to let down some of the models concerned." point would be to put a time limit on the mail - such as "if I have not heard from you within x hours of you reading nmy request I shall assume you are not interested". Might piss off a few though.
Posted 30 May 2011
ARCADIA_IMAGES
Photographer
ARCADIA_IMAGES
PHIL

I'm sure this has happened to more than myself, you see a model who you think fits the bill for an upcoming shoot so you send a mail and you fail to get a reply! You send a polite reminder about your mail and although you see the model concerned has read the mail, still no response. What can we do? Non replies to mail waste time and drag on until the photographer gives up. You are also tempted to contact other models for the same work meaning that eventually you will have to let down some of the models concerned. Is there anything we can do to help stop this....it seems that some models just don't want any work but still advertise on here!


+1 they dont DESERVE to be offered shoots.

Posted 30 May 2011
amethyst
Photographer
amethyst
I agree with the original reply in that nobody is under any obligation to reply, however my wife was recently approached by a model to do a TFP shoot for her.

After looking through the models portfolio, thought it would be beneficial to her portfolio, and in her diary he found a few spare dates. She replied to the model within a couple of hours, the model read the email over a week ago, and still hasn't replied, and has been online every day since.

My guess is she probably sent the same email to other photographers and hand picked one from the replies, though this doesn't excuse her ignorance.

I think an unsolicited email doesn't demand a reply, but a polite no thanks if possible, but if you instigate an email then at least have the manners to reply.

Posted 30 May 2011
frankpht
Photographer
frankpht
The OP could save himself a lot of wasted time if he simply adds to his unsolicited email. Something along the lines.
Thank you for reading my email but as my diary is busy I do need a reply asap. If none is sent then I'll take it you're not interested and I'll offer the work to another model.
It beats throwing his toys out of his pram.

Posted 30 May 2011
mph
Photographer
mph
amethyst

I think an unsolicited email doesn't demand a reply, but a polite no thanks if possible, but if you instigate an email then at least have the manners to reply.


Even responses to casting calls are treated by some as not deserving of a reply (not personal experience - just what one reads on the forum).
Posted 30 May 2011
lazeeboy
Photographer
lazeeboy
I seem to remember when I joined, that you could  choose from some automated replies 

Maybe to stop all these  moaning threads on the same subject, they could be reintroduced along these lines:

a)     Is it payed?

b)     Sorry but I will be washing my hair that day

c)     Sorry not if you were the last tog on earth

d)     Sorry but at this moment in time , I am not looking to work with GWC'S

e)     Sorry but I am Agency represented and not currently  taking on any TFP
Posted 5 June 2011
VenusC
Model
VenusC
lazeeboy
I seem to remember when I joined, that you could  choose from some automated replies  Maybe to stop all these  moaning threads on the same subject, they could be reintroduced along these lines: a)     Is it payed? b)     Sorry but I will be washing my hair that day c)     Sorry not if you were the last tog on earth d)     Sorry but at this moment in time , I am not looking to work with GWC'S e)     Sorry but I am Agency represented and not currently  taking on any TFP
Yes I was just thinking one of the model sites had automated replies when I joined the first time. That'd be very useful. I personally don't like saying no to people, it feels harsh whatever I say (and I'm always nice!)
Posted 5 June 2011
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
PHIL

I'm sure this has happened to more than myself, you see a model who you think fits the bill for an upcoming shoot so you send a mail and you fail to get a reply! You send a polite reminder about your mail and although you see the model concerned has read the mail, still no response. What can we do? Non replies to mail waste time and drag on until the photographer gives up. You are also tempted to contact other models for the same work meaning that eventually you will have to let down some of the models concerned. Is there anything we can do to help stop this....it seems that some models just don't want any work but still advertise on here!

There's not much you can do.  Send them a PM and see if they reply.  If they don't then maybe give them a few days and send a polite reminder (sometimes people are away working or have no internet access, etc.) saying something like "If I don't hear back from you by then I will assume you are not interested in the work I have available".  If still no reply, then contact someone else.  You won't let down other models if you make it clear that you are contacting other models about the work and the first suitable model with whom you confirm the booking gets the job (which should be their assumption anyway).
Posted 5 June 2011
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