Bridal make up.

17 posts
30 Nov 2010
Fisherface
Make Up Artist
Fisherface
I don't do many weddings as it's not really financially viable, but I'm starting to wonder if that's just because I don't charge enough so was wondering how much other MUA's change?

Thanks,

Jes
Posted 30 Nov 2010
Not sure if this will help you, but the bridal MUA I'm going with on my wedding day charges £25 for make-up, then her rates get higher for things like manicures, massages and suchwhat. I think she also does the bridal party (bridesmaids) for a similar fee. And she only applies once in the day, so she can fit a fair few appointments (not all bridal) into her day.

Posted 30 Nov 2010
jes
Model
jes
Thanks, that's what I currently charge but am also expected to do a trial run which is quite a lot of work and materials for little in return. 
Posted 30 Nov 2010
I'm actually planning my wedding at the moment, so maybe I am a good person to talk to...

The one we're going with does do a free consultation beforehand too...don't know what that means as I'm still planning my bridesmaids dresses and so aren't ready to book that stage yet. But I would actually be willing to pay more than £25 on the day, as would the other brides I talk to. (I am the annoying one that talks not about getting the cheapest but about what to pay and what I expect) and for a good quality MUA who gave me that free first consultation on good faith, I'd be willing to pay around £35 for the base treatment...foundation, eye liner, mascara, blush, light eyeshadow and lipstick. I'd probably only want to pay £25 or less for my bridesmaids though, but for the perfect big day, with a good portfolio of your work I'd be willing to pay more as would a few others. It's just, do you think your portfolio is good enough to get past the cheap ones? I don't know, I'm cooking tea and haven't looked at yours.

Posted 30 Nov 2010
Fisherface
Make Up Artist
Fisherface
So on your consultation, did the MUA do a full make up trial for you, or just discuss your requirements?

Thanks for taking the time to help btw! 
Posted 30 Nov 2010
The leaflet hints at a trial, but it's not 100% clear, and I've not had it yet. But I'll be happy to update you when I do have it, but it won't be for a few months yet. Thinking I might scedual the make-up consultation for when my hair trial is.

You're welcome. I had a few friends in College who were training to be MUAs, so I have a vague idea of how hard it can be sometimes. So anyway I can help, I'm happy to.

Posted 30 Nov 2010
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipman
Oh no, no wonder your not making any money me dear, just half of one of my foundations costs £25! I do about 20-30 weddings a year, here are my rates:

www.bridalblushes.co.uk/pricing

Beauty therapists will charge around £25 but they usually dont have all the travelling to do (as the bride comes to them) and they usually charge extra for a trial unless they need the experience and will add on extra money by doing manicures etc.

Just put bridal make up in google and you will find most people charge between £100-£200 for just the bride. The way I look at it if there willing to pay thier photographer around £1,000 upwards now, thier dress... anything between £200-£3,000, venue £300-£3,000 etc why would they skimp on booking a pro to do their make up well and complete the most important day and in my opinion the only day you want to look your most beautiful.


Posted 30 Nov 2010
Fisherface
Make Up Artist
Fisherface
Thanks Claire!  I agree, people seem to be prepared to pay lots to the photographer and for cake, dress, flowers etc etc so why not make up?!  I've turned lots of people down because I didn't think I could ask too much, but I obviously need to have a rethink, lol!

Posted 30 Nov 2010
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipman
No problem at all. Its best to research your target area for example I cover about half an hour surrounding me in all directions but further than that I will add travel on top. I have never had anyone say 'im not paying that' yes they do often ask for discounts but this usually results in them booking a larger party of people so it works in my favour. Find out what other girls in your area charge and mirror them and work with them, dont see it as competition as when they cant do a wedding they will pass it onto you hoping you will pass one back, this gets you extra work without really trying. Be prepared for some hard work, weddings are worth every penny as a lot of brides turn evil on thier wedding day for a little while with the stress lol and if your able to calm things your usually the life saver and they dont care how much you cost as, at the time you where well worth every penny.
Posted 30 Nov 2010
jes
Model
jes
Yes, with the weddings I've done, there have been some manic moments with brides-to-be and their mothers wanting to kill each other! 

You've been a great help, thanks for taking the time!
Posted 30 Nov 2010
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipman
It gets a little easier as you kinda get used to the crazy ones and know how to calm them down its a little like being a therapist at times lol! No worries let me know if you need anymore help
Posted 30 Nov 2010
simplydivine
Make Up Artist
simplydivine
Hi Jesi , I totally agree with what Claire is saying. You are not making any money because you are way too cheap. As Claire said do a search for what MUA's charge in your area, I know it varies for different areas, for example brides will pay £100 + depending on quality and experience in say London, up north where I am the costs are generally less. I have been doing bridal make up for over 14 years now, I charge £55 for the bride and £35 for others on the day. I am not the most expensive but also not the cheapest, I think I price myself for quality but not to price myself out of the market. I also charge for my consultation/ trial, (£35) this is where I discuss the needs and vision of the bride, and obviously do the complete make up as it will be on the day so that the bride knows how she will look , making any tweeks and changes where neccessary. As you rightly say you are using fuel, it is your time and expertise and cost of products, therefore you need to charge for this and I don't know of any MUA's that don't charge for this. Beauty therapists in salons cost less, as Claire rightly says, brides/ clients have to go to them so the therapist don't have travel costs. With no disrespect they also have minimal training on make-up, generally not doing specialist bridal make-up. I used to do between 50-60 weddings a year initially when I did solely bridal make-up. However I do less now as I do more photgraphic shoots,etc so probably around 20-30 now which is a nice balance for me. I hope this is of help and if you want to pm ne or chat on phone I'm happy to help. best wishes Karen xx
Posted 1 Dec 2010
Jeff_Langhorne
Photographer
Jeff_Langhorne
Having shot a lot of weddings first things first you're way too cheap. This will please some people because they don't want to pay much but as you've found you make nothing. I have people say I'm too expensive and others who think I'm quite cheap, so don't worry about charging a higher figure just because they can get cheaper elsewhere. It all depends on what you NEED to charge. Work out your costs for the equipment and then work out an hourly rate.

Get a price list and a good looking portfolio together and promote yourself as a quality, necessary investment for the bride and you should find that you will get booked. If you can show you'll make her look great, they'll pay for you.

Listen to Claire and Karen.

Posted 1 Dec 2010
jes
Model
jes
Thanks all of you!  Your advice has been taken on board x

Posted 1 Dec 2010
pinkybaz
Make Up Artist
pinkybaz
Hi,

I charge £50 for a trial and £50 for wedding day make up, plus extra for travel and also if wants airbrushing I charge more. I find that any make up artist who charges £25 is actually a beautician and not a make up artist and there is a big difference. I live in the North of Yorkshire so people are very tight with money but will not reduce my prices as they are paying for a professional service and get top branded products. Infact I will be putting my prices up in April as not making enough. Like the lady said before foundation is a costly product.

I know brides are happy to pay the going rate if they want a professional service- the old saying' you pay for what you get' x

Posted 28 Feb 2011
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