Ok i'm on the fence when it comes to mua's i know that there are good ones and there seems to be a lot of backlash against models doing this themselves or unqualifieds doing it
as a showcase of some variety and out of personal curiosity i'd like to see your best single image/makeup (as not to have too many images on thread) but....preferably not in the face painting/elaborate drawing on face style? more in the style of something someone would be proud to be seen wearing out?
also possibly to your benefit a brief rundown of what's gone into it that might set you apart from the norm...i.e techique/particularly complicated bit that we as non mua's don't understand
please don't take this thread in a bad way as i've tried to be as "purestorm correct" about it as possible and i'm not after stirring anything up
I may be wrong here but you seem to be asking us to EXPLAIN ourselves as to why an MUA is any better than an unqualified (as you put it) or model doing their own makeup??? (Can i just add, i have absolutely NO issues with models doing their own makeup...to have a problem with that would be ridiculous!!)
No disrespect but what is the ACTUAL point of your thread? Do you just want a collection of images to point out the good and bad?
i suppose part of the point of the thread is for the mua's to show off and prove themselves as there are numerous threads about people going elsewhere and generally "why aren't people using/paying for mua's"
really i'm not even wanting to show the good and the bad, i'm asking people to show their best, i thought i'd outlined the purpose of this in my initial post
you're correct i'm asking you to explain yourselves because i don't know anything about make up stuff and a lot of other probably don't also.
part of selling yourself surely is to educate people on the benefits of using you
as has happened in another thread i'm not sure why you're writing some things in capitals, i along with most others are capable of reading lowercase
hope that answers your questions second skin
This is why I like to use makeup artists. I did a shoot before Christmas, I wanted something that had more deliberate styling than anything I had shot before. So I got an image in my head of what I wanted, I tried to describe it and it was gibberish. I sent an email over to Gaynor with my gibberish on, something along the lines of 'goth but not goth fashion stylee sort of thing' I did specify I wanted a top hat and makeup that was running down the face but not like tears.
Gaynor managed to transform that into my favourite photograph of the year, Samantha provided the clothes, Gaynor the accesories and makeup, I stood in the corner and pressed a button
I can't afford to do it all the time, but whereever possible I will pay an MUA. It's also because I enjoy that collaboration, all three of us involved worked to get the shot, Gaynor and Sam threw in ideas I had never thought of. Simple things such as pair of gloves, I hadn't thought of it, but I don't think I would have liked the image as much if Gaynor hadn't suggested them.
see i'd agree that mua's are definately worth it, but i'd like mua's to join in on this thread and post some images that prove it, so far there hasn't been any positive response from any which surprises me.
Well you haven't given many MUA's chance to respond yet I have only just seen this thread.
Firtly I don't know how to get my images up on the forum threads so if someone explains I will pop up a couple of "my fave" make up shots but I'm not saying I think I am the best, but I am passionate about what I do and always strive to my absolute best and give the client be it the photographer or the model what they want, but also offering my professional opinion to achieve the results.
I am so happy to read responses from photographers saying that we are "worth paying for" as I believe the results we can achieve are far better than the average model/ woman doing her own make up.
For example the the earlier image presented as a reason for models to do their own make up I am afraid I have to diagree on. The model is gorgeous clearly, but the thread was started about make up skills, therefore I agree with Gaynor, the base is patchy and blush/ contouring not blended well, the mascara is very clogged ( just my pet hate) and the lip line bleeding, and yes she may have done it on location, and she did an ok job. But the reason people hire us, is for an amazing job not an ok job. I myself and I know many other Pro MUA's work on location. Places like fields , castles, ruins, car parks, snowy pathways LOL either working out of my boot or just out of my boxes. We should be capable of producing great results whatever the situation.
Just my opinion though
Ok. Perhaps I got things going in the wrong direction. I would love to be able to employ a MUA for every shoot I do but unfortunately funds don't always allow. The shot of Emma was my second shoot I had ever done so MUA was out of the window. In fact I didn't even know about them back then. I will agree that having a MUA WILL enhance a shoot but some models can pull it off to a satisfactory level so us amateurs can get some good shots. Ultimately every shoot boils down to costs but with this thread acting as an advertisement for MUAs perhaps you will sway us all with your amazing capabilities.
Heck, if I could afford a MUA at every shoot I do, I would be using them all the time.