Does anyone else.............

Does anyone else.............

16 posts
7 June 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
Get really fed up of sitting at the PC answering endless emails from people claiming they absolutely LOVE your work and simply HAVE to work with you, knowing that when you pm them your rates......tumbleweed. Its happened to me 6 times in just the last two days. It gets very disheartening as its really lovely to hear such nice compliments on your work but its a double edged sword because you just know that its leading to nowhere because as soon as you mention payment they are gone ....like the wind.....

Im fed up!!! In fact im going to type out a message, save it in word...and copy and paste!!!!!!!emoticon
Posted 7 June 2009
tiggerdrew
Photographer
tiggerdrew
Secondskin

Get really fed up of sitting at the PC answering endless emails from people claiming they absolutely LOVE your work and simply HAVE to work with you, knowing that when you pm them your rates......tumbleweed. Its happened to me 6 times in just the last two days. It gets very disheartening as its really lovely to hear such nice compliments on your work but its a double edged sword because you just know that its leading to nowhere because as soon as you mention payment they are gone ....like the wind.....

Im fed up!!! In fact im going to type out a message, save it in word...and copy and paste!!!!!!!emoticon

You do good work, why not put your rates on your profile page, there can be no misunderstanding then.

Just a thought,

Regards,

Steve...

Posted 7 June 2009
duane
Model
duane
Secondskin

Get really fed up of sitting at the PC answering endless emails from people claiming they absolutely LOVE your work and simply HAVE to work with you, knowing that when you pm them your rates......tumbleweed. Its happened to me 6 times in just the last two days. It gets very disheartening as its really lovely to hear such nice compliments on your work but its a double edged sword because you just know that its leading to nowhere because as soon as you mention payment they are gone ....like the wind.....

Im fed up!!! In fact im going to type out a message, save it in word...and copy and paste!!!!!!!emoticon


moan moan moan... nag nag nag... lol   emoticon

the trouble is people dont see the need to pay for the services of an MUA if they are giving their time for free, but what they dont realise it that as we just sit or stand around you guys are working your arse off and using your equipment that costs alot to replace! make-up isnt cheap. paint isnt cheap and if you are doing a complete bodypaint then you are gonna be using alot of consumable things.

it bugs me too matey!!
Posted 7 June 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
duane

moan moan moan... nag nag nag... lol   emoticon

the trouble is people dont see the need to pay for the services of an MUA if they are giving their time for free, but what they dont realise it that as we just sit or stand around you guys are working your arse off and using your equipment that costs alot to replace! make-up isnt cheap. paint isnt cheap and if you are doing a complete bodypaint then you are gonna be using alot of consumable things.

it bugs me too matey!!


Ha ha ha..... Well, ya gotta have a good moan now and again aintya???? lol emoticon Just seen the private viewing of the film iv just worked on and its ACE so thats cheered me up...lol...no more moaning now!!!!! Well.....at least until tomorrow..lol
Posted 7 June 2009
jes
Model
jes
"Tumble weed"  Haha!  Yes, I'm a MUA and I get the same thing...V annoying!
Posted 7 June 2009
duane
Model
duane
Secondskin

Ha ha ha..... Well, ya gotta have a good moan now and again aintya???? lol emoticon Just seen the private viewing of the film iv just worked on and its ACE so thats cheered me up...lol...no more moaning now!!!!! Well.....at least until tomorrow..lol


cool!!! you need to get hold of a copy so we can all come round and bask in your glory!! emoticon

seriously though, i think i speak on behalf of all of us that know you... well done and we are very proud! emoticon
Posted 7 June 2009
Victoria_Howard
Make Up Artist
Victoria_Howard
Very frustrated too, I  feel that my rate or even many of that of other MUA and Body Painters is very reasonable.
Travel, paint, insurance, telephones, tax and kit, add up.
I also know many of us are happy to negotiate and work with tiny budgets at times.
But please pay us something at least!
Posted 8 June 2009
Edited by Victoria_Howard 8 June 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
duane

cool!!! you need to get hold of a copy so we can all come round and bask in your glory!! emoticon

seriously though, i think i speak on behalf of all of us that know you... well done and we are very proud! emoticon


Awwww thanks Duane and thanks guys....and yaaaay, i have a cd copy of the film...so everyone can see it
Posted 8 June 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
Victoria_Howard

Very frustrated too, I  feel that my rate or even many of that of other MUA and Body Painters is very reasonable.
Travel, paint, insurance, telephones, tax and kit, add up.
I also know many of us are happy to negotiate and work with tiny budgets at times.
But please pay us something at least!


Victoria.....Its like talking to a brick wall im afraid!!! We have soooo got our work cut out. I really try to be patient and reply saying the same thing everytime, but iv decided now to put on my port...not excepting TFP...Bet that wont change a thing!!!emoticon
Posted 8 June 2009
duane
Model
duane
Secondskin

Victoria.....Its like talking to a brick wall im afraid!!! We have soooo got our work cut out. I really try to be patient and reply saying the same thing everytime, but iv decided now to put on my port...not excepting TFP...Bet that wont change a thing!!!emoticon


it probably wont. the trouble is everyone wants something for free. Just look at the 60's shoot im organising, models and togs are doing it on a TF basis (or working for cakes lol) and there are gonna be around 30 models there.. can either you or victoria imagine being the only MUA on the shoot?! How long would it take you to get through 30 models and how much make-up would that cost you if you did it TF! thats why i said IF we use a few MUA's then we need to pay, its only fair. Not everyone thinks like that though.
Posted 8 June 2009
deetvstudio
Photographer
deetvstudio
Secondskin

Get really fed up of sitting at the PC answering endless emails from people claiming they absolutely LOVE your work and simply HAVE to work with you, knowing that when you pm them your rates.....



Think yourself lucky!
It's actually worse being a Photographer.
You get the same "Your work is amazing, love to work with you" stuff, but that's usually accompanied by THEIR rates!

Dave.
Posted 8 June 2009
TonyS
Photographer
TonyS
deetvstudio

It's actually worse being a Photographer.
You get the same "Your work is amazing, love to work with you" stuff, but that's usually accompanied by THEIR rates!


Yes, 2 or 3 emails down the line, just as your prepping some dates!! Grrr

Posted 8 June 2009
duane
Model
duane
Dave & Tony... id happily work with both of you on a TF basis... i wouldnt even want travel costs lol


Posted 8 June 2009
laylarc
Model
laylarc
You lot get to faff around with Barry M glitter all day and you want PAYING as well?  My God, I've never heard anything so outrageous in my life.  How dare you!  emoticon

Seriously, a very valid point Secondskin.  Many makeup artists have to exist on a diet of sequin sandwiches until they have enough paying clients.  And generally speaking the landlord will not accept a burlesque makeover in leu of rent.
Posted 8 June 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
deetvstudio

Think yourself lucky!
It's actually worse being a Photographer.
You get the same "Your work is amazing, love to work with you" stuff, but that's usually accompanied by THEIR rates!

Dave.


Yeah, i can imagine Dave!! Very frustrating indeed!!
Posted 8 June 2009
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