Being told £25 per hour is expensive. Excuse me?!

Being told £25 per hour is expensive. Excuse me?!

114 posts
5 April 2009
LeanneMakeUp
Make Up Artist
LeanneMakeUp
So, a photographer contacts you quite last minute and asks your rates. You reply with £25 per hour. No special deals seeing as it's so last minute.

They reply quite grumpily and acting like £25 per hour is waaaaay expensive and as though no make-up artist should be charging it.

I am quite frankly annoyed. I have come across alot of make-up artists whom charge £25 per hour as a basic rate.

Anyone else had this problem and feel rather offended!?
Posted 5 April 2009
FrameworksMedia
Photographer
FrameworksMe..
Quite new to the game, but used my first MUA last week who quoted £55 for 2 hours (working local) which I thought was reasonable and didn't bother to negotiate down (though of offering £50 but whats a fiver.) End result, she worked a little longer and I had some fantastic images
Posted 5 April 2009
FoxyBMakeup
Make Up Artist
FoxyBMakeup
Ive seen your work and I think £25 an hour is cheap! He should be lucky to get you for such a good rate. The cheek of it!
Posted 5 April 2009
SaraJx
Model
SaraJx
Your work is great, you probably should charge more


Posted 5 April 2009
Chandos
Photographer
Chandos
Had contacts from a model asking me about tfcd, I said fine I will do it as a favour, because she is not what I have in mind for my portfolio I said to her what she is asking requires a studio and she have to pay the cost of hiring one which I can recommend.
She never got back.

I am not a social worker.


Posted 5 April 2009
EleanorJames
Make Up Artist
EleanorJames
everyone just wants everything for free especially when it comes to mua ... as soon as u mention rates to a photographer they say there arent interested as only want tf!!!!!! i think every mua should only accept paid work then they would soon has a nasty shock and realise £25 a hour is a bargain
Posted 6 April 2009
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipma..
Hi Leanne,

There are a LOT of people in this business that dont appreciate what it costs to create a fantastic image.

£25 / hr for a London based mua is very reasonable as I know a few on £350 per 8 hour day. Someone once told me "Dont buy in work" and its very true, those are your rates, they can like it or lump it.  

I recently had a model tell me "I charge less than that per hour for nude work!" I felt like replying with "but you dont need training and around £2,000 worth of kit to get your t*ts and bits out do you love?" but I didn't unfortunatley as im too polite for my own good.

I would politely reply with something along the lines of "These are my rates, always have been, always will be, if you think they are too expensive nthats fair enough please feel free to try and find someone of my standard for less"

Claireemoticon
Posted 6 April 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
I totally agree with Claire. Im constantly getting this. Everyone loving my work and cant wait to work with me and as soon as i mention my rates.......tumbleweed!!!!!emoticon  £25.00 an hour is a good rate, I charge more than that and do you know why???? because my work is worth it and so is yours...Makeup artists do fantastic jobs and why should we feel pushed into lowering our already reasonable prices. STUFF THAT!!!  Hang on in there and just ignore the moans and groans....If they really want to work with you then they like your work and if they like your work then anyone who isnt timewasting will pay you for your time.

DONT feel guilty...Its a job like any other and people wouldnt walk into a shop and moan about the price and try and get it for free!!!!! PURESTORM needs to address this problem once and for all

Iv already said on the forums that MUAs should halt doing all the TFP and see the results!!..I never do TFP now unless its REALLY something I WANT to be doing myself and an idea i want to get out there.
 
Its getting ridiculous when MUAs who are worth their weight in gold are made to feel like this emoticon 
Posted 6 April 2009
Edited by Secondskin 6 April 2009
dynamo
Model
dynamo
Hun, I've seen your work and £25 an hour is a very reasonable price!  Dont worry about cheap skates who dont appreciate the work that goes into becoming a fantastic MUA as you are.
D x
Posted 6 April 2009
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipma..
Yay for the lovely models in this forum emoticon
Posted 6 April 2009
amethyst
Photographer
amethyst
I'm based in Teesside and advertised for a MUA and some of the prices were in all honesty a little bit scary, anywhere between £50 and £200, which in this economic climate can't be justified by me, but I found a great MUA who charges £25 for an hour, but she is also flexible with us, which is what we, as a company, are grateful for.

An MUA, like a photographer, is someone who has, in most cases, trained to do what they do, not all photographers do. Why shouldn't they have an income that reflects their work. I know of photographers who charge £100ph upwards with no training whatsoever.
Posted 6 April 2009
ClaireShipman
Make Up Artist
ClaireShipma..
Woooah, I have had this twice today. One expecting me to clearly make a loss when a 5 hour round trip is required! Not willing to pay travel expenses? Get someone local then...

What is wrong with some people.
Posted 10 April 2009
deetvstudio
Photographer
deetvstudio
In response to the OP, and as hinted at in an earlier reply by Claire, no £25/hour isn't expensive for a London based MUA.
There will always be regional variations to take into account though, the cost of living and average wage can vary a lot.
Plus there are likely to be areas with colleges which run recognized Make-Up courses, having a surfeit of newly qualified MUAs each year all competing for the same work.
In a recession it is highly likely everyone involved in the Industry will have to review their rates in order to survive.

Dave.
Posted 10 April 2009
Secondskin
Make Up Artist
Secondskin
deetvstudio

In response to the OP, and as hinted at in an earlier reply by Claire, no £25/hour isn't expensive for a London based MUA.
There will always be regional variations to take into account though, the cost of living and average wage can vary a lot.
Plus there are likely to be areas with colleges which run recognized Make-Up courses, having a surfeit of newly qualified MUAs each year all competing for the same work.
In a recession it is highly likely everyone involved in the Industry will have to review their rates in order to survive.

Dave.


I agree, I wont lower my rates BUT i WILL offer discounts and specials on certain shoots where im not going to make a loss
Posted 10 April 2009
simplydivine
Make Up Artist
simplydivine
I have lowered my rates to take into account the recession. But I will not work for nothing. Some TF shoots I have done I have not even had images form and others I have had do not improve my port. So now I only work paid, I will however negotiate rates if the shoot looks like it will benefit my port which I have done recently ,  with some really pleasing results. I have to at least cover costs if its part paid and people I  have worked with recently seem to understand that. I have to pay the bills as this is my full time job.
Posted 11 April 2009
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