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I can't believe this is still happening in this day and age

rmsoansphotography is off-line
08 October 2014 15:58
digimarx
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United Kingdom
London


I am currently looking to get a room to rent, but am being held up by excuses from landlords, ranging from age, gender and what job I have (as in, they don't like the shifts I work).

I am currently, according to my specifics, male (no intention of changing that) between a certain age where discrimination in the job used to be "acceptable", and my current job has shifts, so one day I will be working early to early, or afternoon to late, though not nights.


Amber West is off-line
09 October 2014 03:49
Amber6
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Amber6
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Dumfries and Galloway


Why on earth are they bothered about shift work? Are they live-in landlords (hence, they would personally be disrupted by this)? A huge portion of the population do not do 9-5 work. In this day an age I would think they would just be happy to have a tenant who is gainfully employed!
Do you have good previous references from landlords?

Try spareroom.co.uk - you can even (for £12 a month I believe) advertise who you are and what you are looking for, so that way the people who contact you, are already okay with the basics. I've used it twice with great success, as have my friends. There is also a huge age range on there from 18 year olds to 70 year olds.


09 October 2014 07:48
JadedRed
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Try being on housing benefit, then you'll really know pain.


rmsoansphotography is off-line
09 October 2014 13:33
digimarx
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Quote from Amber6
Why on earth are they bothered about shift work? Are they live-in landlords (hence, they would personally be disrupted by this)? A huge portion of the population do not do 9-5 work. In this day an age I would think they would just be happy to have a tenant who is gainfully employed!
Do you have good previous references from landlords?

Try spareroom.co.uk - you can even (for £12 a month I believe) advertise who you are and what you are looking for, so that way the people who contact you, are already okay with the basics. I've used it twice with great success, as have my friends. There is also a huge age range on there from 18 year olds to 70 year olds.



Tried spareroom they seem to want to encourage this discrimination saying "it's in compliant with UK laws"

I have no other choice to do shift work, because I tried for 4 years to get a job without success


Steve Guy is off-line
09 October 2014 13:47
Sdeve
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Derbyshire
Derby

I would like some fill in on details here. Are the grounds you state the only thing of issue? How old are you? If I was wanting to rent out a room there are many things that I would consider, age of the person being but one of them. Remember, if there's a falling out they can be damned difficult to get rid of. A 20 year old bank clerk, or police officer, might be on one end of the scale, a heavily tattooed punk with a bone through his nose and his own drum kit might be on the other. My room, possibly my home, and I would reserve the right to be a bit picky about who I have to see there every day.


rmsoansphotography is off-line
10 October 2014 00:47
digimarx
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Quote from Sdeve
I would like some fill in on details here. Are the grounds you state the only thing of issue? How old are you? If I was wanting to rent out a room there are many things that I would consider, age of the person being but one of them. Remember, if there's a falling out they can be damned difficult to get rid of. A 20 year old bank clerk, or police officer, might be on one end of the scale, a heavily tattooed punk with a bone through his nose and his own drum kit might be on the other. My room, possibly my home, and I would reserve the right to be a bit picky about who I have to see there every day.



But discrimination is illegal, at least that is what it says on the shelter website, yeah grant you, you have the right to be picky



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10 October 2014 02:14
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Quote from digimarx
But discrimination is illegal, at least that is what it says on the shelter website, yeah grant you, you have the right to be picky



No. It is illegal in certain situation such as when applying for a job. Read the original post. He is trying to rent a room not a entire flat. The Landlords are quite rightly entitled to seek a new tennant they feel will get on with those already living in the house and are allowed to do so.

I can well see that shift work would be a major problem for a start. Inevitably that will mean him banging around at times others are trying to sleep. Equally the rest of the house may feel their ability to enjoy watching TV or having a few friends round for the evening would be curtailed by the OP wanting to get some sleep. Equally if the house is currently occupied by a number of young females they may not be happy with having him there.



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Amber West is off-line
10 October 2014 02:36
Amber6
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Dumfries and Galloway


Still seems bizarre. A lot of my friends are freelance sound engineers, which means not only do they do shifts, but seriously antisocial shifts (sometimes finishing at 12am-10am!) and I don't recall them ever having problems renting. Sure they may not be suitable for every house share, but no one is. As I said before, there is a huge percentage of the population who don't work 9-5 (I myself, only have ever worked 9-5 two years of my life, and that doesn't count as it was a job in music, where we were expected to be out in the evening as well, socialising).
Also, London is quite different than most of the UK, as it's so bloody overpriced, people are still in flatmate situations well into middle age, often So as long as you are perhaps trying to live in a property with people in at a similar stage in life (I can see why you might not be a good fit for say, three 18 year old girls to share with), I don't know how it can be too difficult.
Good luck anyway, I hate moving!


Chrissie Red is off-line
10 October 2014 03:40
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Perthshire

I know its disheartening but look at it from another point - if you were a landlord/in charge of who gets to move in to a flat/house you own then you would probably be picky.

When we bought the place we are in now we were still renting a flat so we had to give our landlady notice - our lease wasn't "quite" up but she said if we were able to show potential tenants around then she would accept us moving out as quickly as they moved in (she didn't live in the area so it would be handy for her having us do it). After each viewing we would chat to her about the people who came to see the flat. It was difficult "judging" people, but I knew who she would have preferred an older professional or a couple rather than a bunch of students. The flat was her first property, she put a lot of work into making it a beautiful home and didn't want somebody to come in and cause damage or ruin it in anyway - plus she respected her neighbours enough not to have tenants who liked to party.

I imagine when it comes to finding suitable flatmates its even more important to get somebody who is the "right fit" for the other people in the house. Not only for their sake but for your own. Would you want to live with students who's lifestyle is completely different to your own? - probably not..

Up here though its pretty unusual to be in a flatshare situation - unless you are a student or live with a bunch of mates/your parents. Thank god our housing is "affordable" - think you would pay more for a parking spot on the outskirts of London for a year than what my flat cost me overall.

Maybe the best thing to do is ask around friends? I don't let out my spare room but if a friend asked me I probably wouldn't say no to the extra income it could generate.

Hope you find something soon - don't take the rejection to heart though! Like I said when i was showing potential tenants around the older generation were looked upon much more fondly than the 20's.



rmsoansphotography is off-line
10 October 2014 16:40
digimarx
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United Kingdom
London


Quote from Chrissie_Red
I know its disheartening but look at it from another point - if you were a landlord/in charge of who gets to move in to a flat/house you own then you would probably be picky.

When we bought the place we are in now we were still renting a flat so we had to give our landlady notice - our lease wasn't "quite" up but she said if we were able to show potential tenants around then she would accept us moving out as quickly as they moved in (she didn't live in the area so it would be handy for her having us do it). After each viewing we would chat to her about the people who came to see the flat. It was difficult "judging" people, but I knew who she would have preferred an older professional or a couple rather than a bunch of students. The flat was her first property, she put a lot of work into making it a beautiful home and didn't want somebody to come in and cause damage or ruin it in anyway - plus she respected her neighbours enough not to have tenants who liked to party.

I imagine when it comes to finding suitable flatmates its even more important to get somebody who is the "right fit" for the other people in the house. Not only for their sake but for your own. Would you want to live with students who's lifestyle is completely different to your own? - probably not..

Up here though its pretty unusual to be in a flatshare situation - unless you are a student or live with a bunch of mates/your parents. Thank god our housing is "affordable" - think you would pay more for a parking spot on the outskirts of London for a year than what my flat cost me overall.

Maybe the best thing to do is ask around friends? I don't let out my spare room but if a friend asked me I probably wouldn't say no to the extra income it could generate.

Hope you find something soon - don't take the rejection to heart though! Like I said when i was showing potential tenants around the older generation were looked upon much more fondly than the 20's.






I for one don't mind anyone, including students, I have flatshared with them before, they never got on my nerves, and if they did, it wasn't because of age or gender, it was because they were P*ssed out of their minds, doesn't mean I can't live with them, on the other hand, I got refused a place because the place was for "mature" people from an old person, judging by her voice, so it's like I'm stuck right in the middle at the moment



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