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Paul Jones is off-line
09 July 2014 09:22
Paul_Jones
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Lancashire
Wigan

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Hi Ive been asked to do an underwear shoot for someone and he has said he will pay me, what are my rates? Could anyone help me as id have no idea how much i should roughly charge, or how.to work it out. Does it depend on how long the shoot for or how many outfits etc. Thanks




Another possible option to consider.... 

Ask him what his budget for the shoot is and how much he is offering to pay you.  Then you can either negotiate or decide if it's worth doing or not.

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Paul
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Don Butt is off-line
09 July 2014 10:05
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Considering every model I've ever worked with has done full nude up to adult for 40 or less, your suggestion borders on the insane.

OP. Given you are so new, have no real port or experience I'd suggest being wary of any photographer who'll pay you above market average for anything.



I did give £40 as a rate to negotiate on then it would,of course, be up to the photographer to agree terms or not.

Don.(djb1)


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09 July 2014 10:08
RedChecker
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Buckinghamshire
Stoke Mandeville

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I did give £40 as a rate to negotiate on then it would,of course, be up to the photographer to agree terms or not. Don.(djb1)



I'd wager than 99% of photographers will just pass her by at those rates.  Nobody in their right mind handing over money for a shoot wants the potential agro associated with 'dreamers' (I personally can't be arsed with haggling as I find it awkward, I'd rather just see a price and decide there/then if I'm willing to pay).
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09 July 2014 10:42
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I'd wager than 99% of photographers will just pass her by at those rates.  Nobody in their right mind handing over money for a shoot wants the potential agro associated with 'dreamers' (I personally can't be arsed with haggling as I find it awkward, I'd rather just see a price and decide there/then if I'm willing to pay).


I agree. As soon as a model asks for a rate which significantly exceeds the market she gets labelled as expensive/deluded and is thereafter automatically overlooked when it comes to finding a model. Again it's a reputation which is hard to shake off once acquired.


Paul Hodson is off-line
09 July 2014 10:50
mph
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mph
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Cheshire
Crewe

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I agree. As soon as a model asks for a rate which significantly exceeds the market she gets labelled as expensive/deluded and is thereafter automatically overlooked when it comes to finding a model. Again it's a reputation which is hard to shake off once acquired.



Which is doubly unfortunate if the poor girl does so because of bad advice here!  laugh
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09 July 2014 10:59
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Which is doubly unfortunate if the poor girl does so because of bad advice here!  laugh


Indeed.

I would add though that there are plenty of photographers around who are happy to pay a model [much] more than I am. And there are plenty of experienced models around who can recognise who those photographers are simply by looking at what's in their portfolio. So experienced models will quote varying rates according to what they see or know about the photographer.

Paul's proposal is probaby the best all-round solution for a new model - see what rate the photographer proposes and then consider whether it's worth your while.


Neil Anderson is off-line
09 July 2014 11:06
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
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London
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Quote from marlhamphoto
Indeed.



I would add though that there are plenty of photographers around who are happy to pay a model [much] more than I am. And there are plenty of experienced models around who can recognise who those photographers are simply by looking at what's in their portfolio. So experienced models will quote varying rates according to what they see or know about the photographer.



Paul's proposal is probaby the best all-round solution for a new model - see what rate the photographer proposes and then consider whether it's worth your while.




Or say 'I would really need £x to be worth my while to travel to you (or where ever), but I am flexible how long we shoot for.'
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Paul Jones is off-line
09 July 2014 13:31
Paul_Jones
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Lancashire
Wigan

Quote from marlhamphoto
As soon as a model asks for a rate which significantly exceeds the market she gets labelled as expensive/deluded and is thereafter automatically overlooked when it comes to finding a model. Again it's a reputation which is hard to shake off once acquired.



I definitely agree with this, and I often think it's just that they have been badly advised.

I'm sure we've all had similar emails in the past from new models offering topless shoots for the bargain price of £100 per hour.


Quote from marlhamphoto
Paul's proposal is probaby the best all-round solution for a new model - see what rate the photographer proposes and then consider whether it's worth your while.



Thank-you.


Best regards
Paul


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